I'm with Denny (rarely a bad thing). A Rochefort is a beer that is a thing of beauty, aside from the technical precision, that captures magic in a bottle. I've made some good ones ( a couple very good), but no magic. BUT, a homebrewer with skill and vision can make beer that rivals some craft beer, if nothing else because we are the CEO, sole partner, and sole brewmaster, free of business, demographic, or monetary concerns. But there is some amazing craft beer out there.