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Witbier grain bill: Unmalted wheat vs flaked wheat

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tschmidlin:
Or you could use flour.

kylekohlmorgen:
In my opinion: flaked wheat is not a passable substitute for unmalted wheat.

Maybe its an issue with freshness in flaked wheat, or something that the process of gelatinizing raw wheat at home contributes, but I have always found beers made with raw wheat to be far superior.

A cereal mash is not terribly complicated. I think its easier than a single decoction.

Torrefied ('puffed') wheat is another option. Never tried it in a witbier, but I like it as a substitute for flaked wheat in smaller quantities (small amount for head retention, body, etc.). It has a subtle, fresh popcorn flavor.

guido:

--- Quote from: kylekohlmorgen on May 23, 2013, 05:40:44 AM ---In my opinion: flaked wheat is not a passable substitute for unmalted wheat.

Maybe its an issue with freshness in flaked wheat, or something that the process of gelatinizing raw wheat at home contributes, but I have always found beers made with raw wheat to be far superior.

A cereal mash is not terribly complicated. I think its easier than a single decoction.

Torrefied ('puffed') wheat is another option. Never tried it in a witbier, but I like it as a substitute for flaked wheat in smaller quantities (small amount for head retention, body, etc.). It has a subtle, fresh popcorn flavor.

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I had a feeling that's what someone was going to say.  If you're gonna brew it, ya might as well brew it right.  That's why we homebrew.  Looks like I'll be doing a cereal mash.  BTW, are you the one giving the wild house strain lecture at the conference?  If so, I'm looking forward to it.

nateo:
Here's my super rad trick for using wheat berries, no cereal mash or rice hulls necessary:
http://nateobrew.blogspot.com/2012/12/a-better-way-to-brew-with-raw-wheat.html

guido:

--- Quote from: nateo on May 27, 2013, 11:19:29 AM ---Here's my super rad trick for using wheat berries, no cereal mash or rice hulls necessary:
http://nateobrew.blogspot.com/2012/12/a-better-way-to-brew-with-raw-wheat.html

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Interesting.  I have heard of people wetting their grain before grinding.  I have a regular mill, not a Corona one, so  I might experiment with a pound or so.  I would still do a protein rest, and I'd still use rice hulls.  No offense.

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