Author Topic: bridge collapse  (Read 2098 times)

Offline tschmidlin

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8131
  • Redmond, WA
    • View Profile
bridge collapse
« on: May 23, 2013, 09:54:47 PM »
Damn!  They're preempting a lot of TV with live coverage of this, haven't gone to commercial in a long time.  So far it looks like no casualties.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57586023/i-5-bridge-collapses-in-nw-wash.-people-in-water/
Tom Schmidlin

Offline ptownbrewer

  • 1st Kit
  • *
  • Posts: 3
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 11:36:05 PM »
Looks like 3 people went in but no casualties!

Offline redbeerman

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1713
  • On the banks of the mighty Susquehanna
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 05:15:53 AM »
"Washington state was given a C in the American Society of Civil Engineers' 2013 infrastructure report card and a C- when it came to the state's bridges. The group said more than a quarter of Washington's 7,840 bridges are considered structurally deficient or functionally obsolete."  Not good.
CH3CH2OH - Without it, life itself would be impossible.

[441, 112.1deg] AR

Jim

Offline Thirsty_Monk

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1848
  • Eau Claire WI
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 06:00:21 AM »
A couple of years ago bridge on I-35 collapsed in Minneapolis. It was at the evening trafic. Bridge was loaded. It was unbelievable that something like that would happen.
Na Zdravie

On Tap At The TapRoom:
Bohemian Pilsner
Bohemian Dark Lager
Smoked Bock
MaiBock
American Brown Ale
Marzen
Root beer

Offline saintpierre

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 402
  • Augusta, ME
    • View Profile
    • www.malthomebrewclub.org
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 06:02:43 AM »
Red I'm glad you brought up the report card.  Its staggering how poor our infrastructure as a whole is.  From my personal experience having worked as a civil engineering for 8 years and specifically on bridges for half of that time deficient bridges are all to common.  Good thing their were no fatalities.
Mike St. Pierre
Maine Ale & Libation Tasters (MALT)
BJCP Recognized
[719.4, 74.1] AR

Online theDarkSide

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2077
  • Derry, NH
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 06:04:55 AM »
A couple of years ago bridge on I-35 collapsed in Minneapolis. It was at the evening trafic. Bridge was loaded. It was unbelievable that something like that would happen.

Yeah, that was the one that caused every state and the federal government to look at all their bridges.  It was amazing how many red-listed bridges they were.  There are 2 large bridges that connect NH to ME that were at the top of the list.  One is going to be completed this year, the other is set to be replaced next year ( a tanker tried to take it out a couple months ago, but only damaged it...now there's a big fight about who's going to pay for the repairs ).
Sergeant - BNArmy Member
AHA Member
Seacoast Homebrew Club Member
https://www.facebook.com/SeacoastHomebrewClub
Stephen M.
------------------------------------------------

Offline jamminbrew

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 800
  • theAntipunk
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 06:15:13 AM »
Best part of this story: No fatalities. That could have been much worse...
Member, AHA
Member, Brew Brothers of Pikes Peak
BJCP judge# D1248
In caelo cerivisiae nil, hic igitur bibimus.

Online HoosierBrew

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2268
  • Indianapolis,IN
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 06:16:58 AM »
Red I'm glad you brought up the report card.  Its staggering how poor our infrastructure as a whole is.  From my personal experience having worked as a civil engineering for 8 years and specifically on bridges for half of that time deficient bridges are all to common.  Good thing their were no fatalities.

+1.   We find endless ways to waste tax dollars, but direct precious little $$ to safe infrastructure.
Jon H.

Offline hopfenundmalz

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 4547
  • Milford, MI
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 06:28:30 AM »
"Washington state was given a C in the American Society of Civil Engineers' 2013 infrastructure report card and a C- when it came to the state's bridges. The group said more than a quarter of Washington's 7,840 bridges are considered structurally deficient or functionally obsolete."  Not good.
i live in a state with a D rating. The winters take a toll, and we have the highest truck GVW by a factor greater than 2. The roads are 3rd world quality in places.
Jeff Rankert
Ann Arbor Brewers Guild, AHA Member, BJCP Certified
Home-brewing, not just a hobby, it is a lifestyle!

Online mtnrockhopper

  • I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
  • ********
  • Posts: 2894
  • Delaware
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 06:47:03 AM »
This wasn't a case of failing infrastructure - an oversized truck hit one of the supports.
 
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/24/18465755-like-a-hollywood-movie-driver-survives-i-5-bridge-collapse-into-wash-river?lite
Jimmy K

Delmarva United Homebrewers - President by inverse coup when the old president ousted himself.
AHA Member since 2006
BJCP: B0958

Offline MDixon

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1012
    • View Profile
    • Mike's Homebrewing Page
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 07:01:04 AM »
It's great to hear no one was killed!

- -

We had one collapse back in 1975 in our area on a very foggy night. I think 7 drove off and four people died.

http://vimeo.com/9661464

Interesting story about the bridge collapse is it was covered by Reader's Digest and a kid in Kentucky read the story and sent a note which made it to a local church down the road from us saying he would trade tree seedlings for clothes. The church drove to that rural part of KY and saw the poverty and started gathering clothes to take to Kentucky. That first year I think they took something like 8 or 10 vehicles. Last I heard they were still doing the trip and taking tractor trailers full of clothing, food and other items.
It's not a popularity contest, it's beer!

Offline Joe Sr.

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2331
  • Chicago - NORTH SIDE
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 07:02:29 AM »
The roads are 3rd world quality in places.

Spring time in Chicago.  I really should get winter tires with steel rims.

Infrastructure would seem to be a good place to invest tax dollars, but repairs don't make for sexy news conferences.
It's all in the reflexes. - Jack Burton

Online morticaixavier

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 5697
  • Davis, CA
    • View Profile
    • The Best Artist in the WORLD!!!!!
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 08:02:42 AM »
This wasn't a case of failing infrastructure - an oversized truck hit one of the supports.
 
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/24/18465755-like-a-hollywood-movie-driver-survives-i-5-bridge-collapse-into-wash-river?lite

I would think that if one truck hitting one support is enough to take down a bridge it's till failing infrastructure. just not spontaneous failure.
"Creativity is the residue of wasted time" - A. Einstein

Jonathan I Fuller

Offline jeffy

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2448
  • Tampa, Fl
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 08:21:40 AM »
It was in May of 1980 that the ship Summit Venture hit a piling of the northbound span of the Sunshine Skyway bridge and caused it to collapse into Tampa Bay during morning rush hour traffic.
That was an eerie morning.  It was strange later to drive over the other span and see the broken bridge hanging over the bay.

Jeff Gladish, Tampa (989.3, 175.1 Apparent Rennarian)
Homebrewing since 1990
AHA member since 1991, now a lifetime member
BJCP judge since 1995

Offline Joe Sr.

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2331
  • Chicago - NORTH SIDE
    • View Profile
Re: bridge collapse
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 08:24:18 AM »
This wasn't a case of failing infrastructure - an oversized truck hit one of the supports.
 
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/24/18465755-like-a-hollywood-movie-driver-survives-i-5-bridge-collapse-into-wash-river?lite

I would think that if one truck hitting one support is enough to take down a bridge it's till failing infrastructure. just not spontaneous failure.

Could be crappy engineering and/or construction defects.  But failing/poorly maintained infrastructure is more likely.
It's all in the reflexes. - Jack Burton