Author Topic: high sulfates  (Read 1575 times)

Offline jimrod

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
    • View Profile
high sulfates
« on: May 25, 2013, 08:33:53 AM »
I've heard that high sulfates, 300 ppm, would enhance hops for an APA.  (and keep the Chlorides under 100 ).
Anyone done this?
The liver is evil and must be punished

Offline hopfenundmalz

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 4535
  • Milford, MI
    • View Profile
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 09:31:05 AM »
All the time for certain styles. You get crisp bitterness and lingering dry finish. Don't expect flavor and aroma to go up.
Jeff Rankert
Ann Arbor Brewers Guild, AHA Member, BJCP Certified
Home-brewing, not just a hobby, it is a lifestyle!

Offline duboman

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 785
    • View Profile
high sulfates
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 09:34:23 AM »

All the time for certain styles. You get crisp bitterness and lingering dry finish. Don't expect flavor and aroma to go up.

+1
I usually aim for around 250 for my pales and IpAs
Peace....Love......Beer......

The Commune Brewing Company-Perfecting the craft of beer since 2010

Offline joe_feist

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 114
  • Grand Rapids, MI
    • View Profile
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2013, 04:45:24 AM »
Lots of info on this topic in Steele's book IPA if yer interested. Basically, yeah, higher sulfates help with the hop flavor. He spends a lot time discussing Burton and London waters. I've started adding more gypsum using the suggestions in Bru'n water. So far, I've seen an improvement in my IPAs.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Mark Twain

Offline davidgzach

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1498
    • View Profile
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 07:38:58 AM »
I use the Pale Ale profile in Bru'n Water which is 300ppm. 

Dave
Dave Zach

Offline kylekohlmorgen

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1163
    • View Profile
    • The South House Pilot Brewery
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 06:10:04 AM »
I'm starting to back off from 300 ppm sulfates in my pale ales (not IPAs). Its summertime, and my more sessionable pales don't benefit from the firm bitterness. A lighter pale ale is a (relatively) delicate beer, so sharp bittering can cover up its depth.

I'm actually thinking about bringing the chloride concentration up to enhance malt character.

For IPA - 300 ppm is a good starting point.
@southhousebrew

Indianapolis, IN

Recipes, Brett/Bacteria Experiments:
http://southhousepilotbrewery.blogspot.com/

Offline jimrod

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
    • View Profile
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 06:46:11 AM »
I tried a 258 : 78 ratio of sulfates to chlorides. Does that sound about right for an American IPA ?
The liver is evil and must be punished

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11665
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 09:38:47 AM »
I tried a 258 : 78 ratio of sulfates to chlorides. Does that sound about right for an American IPA ?

Sounds good to me.
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

Offline HoosierBrew

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2243
  • Indianapolis,IN
    • View Profile
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 10:06:12 AM »
Looks good.  My current IPA is ~ 300:60 . You'll like the results I bet.
Jon H.

Offline hopfenundmalz

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 4535
  • Milford, MI
    • View Profile
Re: high sulfates
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 10:11:48 AM »
I have done 2 AIPAs based on the Fathead's Headhunter clone in IPA by Steele.

365 SO4:24 CL works for me.
Jeff Rankert
Ann Arbor Brewers Guild, AHA Member, BJCP Certified
Home-brewing, not just a hobby, it is a lifestyle!