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2 yeast strain advice
« on: May 31, 2013, 12:51:59 PM »
Hey all,
Brewing a 1.060 Saison on Sunday using WLP565 to start and Wyeast 3711 to finish. 1st time using 2 strains and need a little advice. I like the qualities of each strain on their own so want to see how they'll play together. My thought is is to pitch the wlp565 @ 65F and leave it there for a couple days then ramp the temp 3-4F a day till I hit 1.020. After that cool to 70F and pitch my 3711. Good plan or no? I'm also wondering should I build the 3711 starter for a 1.020 wort or a 1.060 wort? Thx in advance!
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 02:06:29 PM »
I brew Saisons with these 2 yeasts and I just pitch then together. I even put them in a starter together.

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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 02:16:51 PM »
I brew Saisons with these 2 yeasts and I just pitch then together. I even put them in a starter together.

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Do you get repeatable results this way? I might have to try that next time? I dont have time to start my 3711 now.
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 07:11:31 AM »
You should be fine doing staged pitching, especially if you are looking for most or all of the character to come out of 565.
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 08:21:22 AM »
You should be fine doing staged pitching, especially if you are looking for most or all of the character to come out of 565.

I pitched a healthy starter of 565 around 4pm yesterday @65F.  I had some nice krausen this morning and kicked the heat to 68F .im going to bump it 4F a day unitil I hit around 1.020.  Reluctantly, I'll have to drop temp to pitch the 3711. I'm building a starter big enough for a 1.050 tonight. I usually get 73-80% out of 565 so it should be almost starting to slow. Hoping the 3711 will bottom out below 1.005.
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 08:23:58 AM »
I'd split the batch and pitch each yeast into half, then blend when it was finished.
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 11:12:42 AM »
You should be fine doing staged pitching, especially if you are looking for most or all of the character to come out of 565.

I pitched a healthy starter of 565 around 4pm yesterday @65F.  I had some nice krausen this morning and kicked the heat to 68F .im going to bump it 4F a day unitil I hit around 1.020.  Reluctantly, I'll have to drop temp to pitch the 3711. I'm building a starter big enough for a 1.050 tonight. I usually get 73-80% out of 565 so it should be almost starting to slow. Hoping the 3711 will bottom out below 1.005.
Thx
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Are you just planning on using the 3711 in case the 565 stalls out on you? If that's the case, just ride it out as far as the 565 takes you. If it stalls out, then there's no real issue in dropping the temp to pitch the 3711. If it doesn't stall, then let it finish on its own and you now have a starter of 3711 ready to go for another brew.
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 05:42:33 AM »
I'm not worried about the 565 stalling. I was more looking for a way to get some characteristics from both strains with repeatable results.
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 05:46:06 AM »
...btw, Denny thats a great idea! I wish i'd thought of that. I could have pitched the 3711 @ room temp and used the fermentation chamber for the 565. Maybe next time? Thx!
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Re: 2 yeast strain advice
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 11:33:57 AM »
...btw, Denny thats a great idea! I wish i'd thought of that. I could have pitched the 3711 @ room temp and used the fermentation chamber for the 565. Maybe next time? Thx!
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