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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2013, 12:35:05 PM »
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2013, 01:03:13 PM »
Big Ass American Pale Ale. BAAPA.
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2013, 01:07:21 PM »
Beer is like porn. You can buy it, but it's more fun to make your own.
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2013, 01:34:15 PM »
The USA is a melting pot of cultures, so we would often rather steal ideas from other places and bastardize it to make it our own rather than come up with something truly American from scratch. 

umm...the Germans actually did it too.  Sedlmayr essentially stole the pilsner 'idea' from Plzen and then just called it German Pilsner.

IIRC, wasn't marzen also bastardized vienna lager?

English IPAs aren't being made to export to India anymore either, so why stop with American IPA? English Strong Pale Ale.

Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth. 

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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2013, 01:44:37 PM »


Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth.

+ 1. Not even going to try to change the name now. Called it Imperial Pale ale if it makes you feel any better.
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2013, 01:49:34 PM »
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2013, 04:00:05 PM »
The USA is a melting pot of cultures, so we would often rather steal ideas from other places and bastardize it to make it our own rather than come up with something truly American from scratch. 

umm...the Germans actually did it too.  Sedlmayr essentially stole the pilsner 'idea' from Plzen and then just called it German Pilsner.

IIRC, wasn't marzen also bastardized vienna lager?

English IPAs aren't being made to export to India anymore either, so why stop with American IPA? English Strong Pale Ale.

Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth. 


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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2013, 07:31:04 PM »
Damn... I thought this thread was going to be about pairing steak with beer. Oh well.
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2013, 07:44:36 PM »
From now on, American IPA shall be called... Tim. Or the beer formerly known as AIPA.

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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2013, 07:53:01 PM »
From now on, American IPA shall be called... Tim. Or the beer formerly known as AIPA.

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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2013, 08:13:58 PM »
The USA is a melting pot of cultures, so we would often rather steal ideas from other places and bastardize it to make it our own rather than come up with something truly American from scratch. 

umm...the Germans actually did it too.  Sedlmayr essentially stole the pilsner 'idea' from Plzen and then just called it German Pilsner.

IIRC, wasn't marzen also bastardized vienna lager?

English IPAs aren't being made to export to India anymore either, so why stop with American IPA? English Strong Pale Ale.

Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth.

Same with grodzinski/gratzer. The Germans liked to take places over and rename everything with some German version of the name. Of course, the Romans did that to Greece hundreds of years before, too.
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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2013, 03:18:40 AM »
Reading Mitch Steele's book and understanding just how much hops the original IPA had in it (6 lbs of hops per bbl, not including dry hops) and seeing how high the original gravity was (often times 1.070+) I realized how much more like our version of IPA is compared to what IPA in England has become. Sure, there are vast differences. Ours use pure cultures, are not aged for months or years, etc. But I think our IPA name is probably more accurate than what you would find in England.
I've had some of the historic recreations that Ron Pattinson has worked on with Pretty Things and beers were shockingly similar to the beers we think we have created.  In the 19th century, Brits were making pale colored, all base malt, hugely hopped beers with American hops.  Everything old is new again.

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Re: Got beef with "American IPA"
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2013, 07:31:52 AM »
I still like APA as a new name for IPA, I don't know that it's too late to change it, but I don't care enough to lobby the idea. But, that's the beauty of it, we can call it what we want. Open up your own brewery and brew an IPA and call it APA.
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