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The Gargoyle
« on: July 11, 2013, 09:41:03 AM »
I'm brewing a IIPA that is pretty obnoxious today. I call it "The Gargoyle" I'm using the same grain bill as the Zymurgy Pliny recipe. I switched the hops up a bit and went with this hop schedule...

60 minute - 3 oz Summit
30 minute - 2 oz Simcoe
15 minute - 1 oz Mosaic
0 minute - 2 oz Simcoe & 2 oz Mosaic
Dry Hop - 2 oz Simcoe & 2 oz Mosaic
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 12:17:25 PM »
Shouldn't a beer with that name be dark? That's what I'm thinkin'...
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 12:51:19 PM »
Shouldn't a beer with that name be dark? That's what I'm thinkin'...

Gargoyles are protectors from evil spirits... So, gargoyles scare off darkness. They are ugly but good.

Actually I didn't look that deep into when naming it. We have gargoyles around our koi pond, so as I sat on the porch putting together the recipe, I looked at one of the gargoyles and thought that should be the name. But I see your point, but it's my beer so your point doesn't matter  ;) :P
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 01:05:01 PM »
Shouldn't a beer with that name be dark? That's what I'm thinkin'...

Gargoyles are protectors from evil spirits... So, gargoyles scare off darkness. They are ugly but good.

Actually I didn't look that deep into when naming it. We have gargoyles around our koi pond, so as I sat on the porch putting together the recipe, I looked at one of the gargoyles and thought that should be the name. But I see your point, but it's my beer so your point doesn't matter  ;) :P

who says darkness is inherently associated with evil spirits?  ;D

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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 01:28:00 PM »
Shouldn't a beer with that name be dark? That's what I'm thinkin'...

Gargoyles are protectors from evil spirits... So, gargoyles scare off darkness. They are ugly but good.

Actually I didn't look that deep into when naming it. We have gargoyles around our koi pond, so as I sat on the porch putting together the recipe, I looked at one of the gargoyles and thought that should be the name. But I see your point, but it's my beer so your point doesn't matter  ;) :P

who says darkness is inherently associated with evil spirits?  ;D

Fair enough... Who says a Gargoyle is inherently associated with darkness? Lol

Anyways, nomenclature is not the point here.... It's the hop schedule... What do you think of it?
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 01:42:43 PM »
Simcoe is a high oil hop which means that the Simcoe aroma will tend to obliterate the Mosaic aroma unless Mosaic is also high oil.  If Mosaic isn't a high oil hop, the amount of Mosaic relative to Simcoe should be increased in the dry hop and possibly for 0 minute too.
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 01:43:07 PM »
Hmmm, I'd move more hops towards the end. The 30 minute addition isn't really necessary I don't think. Otherwise, I'd say it looks good to me.
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 01:48:26 PM »
Yeast is pitched
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 05:24:45 PM »
Simcoe is a high oil hop which means that the Simcoe aroma will tend to obliterate the Mosaic aroma unless Mosaic is also high oil.  If Mosaic isn't a high oil hop, the amount of Mosaic relative to Simcoe should be increased in the dry hop and possibly for 0 minute too.

Mosaic is just as oily as Simcoe, if not more so. It's like a super Simcoe with some extra fruitiness. It's a lot like crack, actually. *twitches* Pardon me while I go pour a brew...
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2013, 05:36:43 PM »
Exactly - super Simcoe.   Intense in a good way.  Love it.
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2013, 06:07:06 PM »
Yeah, I know Simcoe is potent, but it's one of my favorites. I'm not necessarily trying overpower anything. I'm trying to find the perfect late addition hop blend for me. Many people like the Simcoe and Amarillo combo. Though I think it's good, I like them both better away from each other.
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 08:40:24 PM »
Tasted this today. It's very good, but strange. The first drink is overwhelming summit and its oniony flavor. The next drink I get slammed with a berry like taste that I'm assuming I'm getting from the mosaic. The Simcoe seems to be in the background, which never seems to be the case. I like it.
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 09:01:51 PM »
Hated simcoe first time I tried it. Loved it ever since.

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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2013, 07:32:58 AM »
Hated simcoe first time I tried it. Loved it ever since.

Simcoe is pretty much a staple in my IPAs. The flavor is definitely there, it's just sitting in the back seat.
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Re: The Gargoyle
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2013, 08:15:42 AM »
Simcoe is a high oil hop which means that the Simcoe aroma will tend to obliterate the Mosaic aroma unless Mosaic is also high oil.  If Mosaic isn't a high oil hop, the amount of Mosaic relative to Simcoe should be increased in the dry hop and possibly for 0 minute too.

Mosaic is just as oily as Simcoe, if not more so. It's like a super Simcoe with some extra fruitiness. It's a lot like crack, actually. *twitches* Pardon me while I go pour a brew...
Mosaic is a cross of Simcoe and Nugget. I sag it is like Simcoe with much less cat pee.
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