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Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« on: July 19, 2013, 08:18:47 AM »
I want to dilute my sparge water, which is 7.23PH with %88 lactic acid to below 6 PH.  Is there a formula or calculator that will aid in this conversion. I have really "hard" water: 263 bicarb which I believe buffers the ability to dilute with lactic?

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 08:19:35 AM »
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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 08:25:06 AM »
Get Bru'nwater....

https://sites.google.com/site/brunwater/

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I have really soft water.  Bru'n water is simple to use.

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 08:26:10 AM »
I have been using EZ water cal and have been playing with BRu'nwater and i am trying to understanding it better. I feel stupid when i attempt to use Bru'nwater. EZ water has been working for me for over a year.  I will cont to attempt to elevate myself to bru'nwater:) It just seems more complete.

I enter the same info in bru'nwater as EZ and they are markedly different. Ill figure it out eventually 

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2013, 08:36:01 AM »
My phone is currently my only computer and bru'n water doesn't work on it. I like Kai's advanced water calculator on brewer's friend.

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2013, 08:51:30 AM »
+1 Bru'n Water

To reduce from 7.2 pH to 5.5 pH would take 0.09 ml/gal of 88% Lactic acid.

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 09:01:18 AM »
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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 09:19:57 AM »
OOPs i was thinking about Kals also.  Thats the one i have been playing with. I really like it.

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 09:52:41 AM »
+1 Bru'n Water

To reduce from 7.2 pH to 5.5 pH would take 0.09 ml/gal of 88% Lactic acid.

It's going to depend on the amount of alkalinity more than the starting pH.  In BrunWater, I put in 215 ppm for alkalinity in the sparge water acidification tab (263*50/61 to convert from bicarbonate ppm, according to Palmer).  For a desired water pH of 5.5, it calculates 1.21 ml / gal of 88% lactic acid.

You can also do this in Kai's water calculator; just set the sparge water volume to the desired amount of water to treat and scroll down to the "sparge water acidification" section.
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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 10:53:22 AM »
+1 Bru'n Water

To reduce from 7.2 pH to 5.5 pH would take 0.09 ml/gal of 88% Lactic acid.

It's going to depend on the amount of alkalinity more than the starting pH.  In BrunWater, I put in 215 ppm for alkalinity in the sparge water acidification tab (263*50/61 to convert from bicarbonate ppm, according to Palmer).  For a desired water pH of 5.5, it calculates 1.21 ml / gal of 88% lactic acid.

You can also do this in Kai's water calculator; just set the sparge water volume to the desired amount of water to treat and scroll down to the "sparge water acidification" section.

You're right - I overlooked that point.  My alkalinity is low, so it requires less adjustment.  Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: Sparge water dilution ? Lactic %88
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2013, 07:27:47 AM »
I brewed this weekend and put 5ml! of Lactic %88 to knock my PH down to 6.2 FROM 7.2:( It was 13.5 gal of sparge H2O. That seems like a lot. I was worried about taste threshold? I will experiment to see if i can taste it at 10ml in 13.5 gal.  I am just trying to no have to cut my water. i have to have at least 13 gal in my HLT to cover my coil.
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