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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2013, 12:46:21 PM »
Yes. But many people still don't realize that acquiring a keg through a deposit is not legit. We need a PSA on NBC about it. The more you know....
Seems like with ubiquitous credit cards, the industry could switch to a $0 deposit, but we charge your card full price if not returned within 6 months. I guess market forces might prevent that though.

I was out of sequence in having enough homebrew on hand last weekend for a Navy reunion at my house, so I went to Bale Breaker Brewing Co., here in Yakima to pick up a 1/6th bbl. of a Rye IPA.  I was shocked when they told me the deposit was $100!  You better believe that's not going to sit in my garage when its empty!
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2013, 12:50:16 PM »
Dogfish started charging a $100 dollar deposit several years ago.

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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2013, 01:08:49 PM »
Dogfish started charging a $100 dollar deposit several years ago.

Is the $100 deposit not normal in those parts of the country??

Ever since college, I've been paying $100 deposits on everything from Natty Light to Schlafly 1/2 barrels to Boulevard 1/6 barrels.
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2013, 01:15:04 PM »
Dogfish started charging a $100 dollar deposit several years ago.

Is the $100 deposit not normal in those parts of the country??

Ever since college, I've been paying $100 deposits on everything from Natty Light to Schlafly 1/2 barrels to Boulevard 1/6 barrels.

The last time I bought a keg, the deposit was $50.  That was 25 years ago so $100 now would not surprise me too much.

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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2013, 01:17:27 PM »
Dogfish started charging a $100 dollar deposit several years ago.

Is the $100 deposit not normal in those parts of the country??

Ever since college, I've been paying $100 deposits on everything from Natty Light to Schlafly 1/2 barrels to Boulevard 1/6 barrels.

Not in liquor stores around here at least, but then they don't care as much if they get it back.
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2013, 02:59:36 PM »
Dogfish started charging a $100 dollar deposit several years ago.

Is the $100 deposit not normal in those parts of the country??

The going rate everywhere I've checked or purchased from around here has been $30.  That is why kegs sell on craigslist for $30-40.
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2013, 03:15:37 PM »
$90 minimum around here
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2013, 03:42:38 PM »
If I charged my distributor $100 per keg deposit they would laugh at me. I charge them 30.
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2013, 11:21:28 AM »
I've used both keggle and 14 gallon flat bottom kettle and they both work the same on my burner. My 14 gallon kettle came with ball valve, sight glass and diverter plate and (importantly) tight fitting lid. much prefer brewing on the latter. Maybe a little more  expensive but has lasted 10 years thus far.

Agree keggle route is cheaper, just be sure you find a decommissioned one.

I think you have a great point here for anyone looking at getting a new or upgraded BK. The flat bottom with a thicker sandwiched base type kettle is probably a better piece. You can more easily utilize a hops dam or a device like a hop blocker with it and kettle losses might tend to be less. That bowl shaped bottom on my 15 gal  Keggle holds a lot of wort ( and trub ) and you have to tilt it to get the last of the wort. I have adjusted many of my recipes about 1 gallon larger in volume to compensate.
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2013, 12:47:59 PM »
I've used both keggle and 14 gallon flat bottom kettle and they both work the same on my burner. My 14 gallon kettle came with ball valve, sight glass and diverter plate and (importantly) tight fitting lid. much prefer brewing on the latter. Maybe a little more  expensive but has lasted 10 years thus far.

Agree keggle route is cheaper, just be sure you find a decommissioned one.

I think you have a great point here for anyone looking at getting a new or upgraded BK. The flat bottom with a thicker sandwiched base type kettle is probably a better piece. You can more easily utilize a hops dam or a device like a hop blocker with it and kettle losses might tend to be less. That bowl shaped bottom on my 15 gal  Keggle holds a lot of wort ( and trub ) and you have to tilt it to get the last of the wort. I have adjusted many of my recipes about 1 gallon larger in volume to compensate.

Or you can install a dip tube.
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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2013, 01:02:21 PM »
I've used both keggle and 14 gallon flat bottom kettle and they both work the same on my burner. My 14 gallon kettle came with ball valve, sight glass and diverter plate and (importantly) tight fitting lid. much prefer brewing on the latter. Maybe a little more  expensive but has lasted 10 years thus far.

Agree keggle route is cheaper, just be sure you find a decommissioned one.

I think you have a great point here for anyone looking at getting a new or upgraded BK. The flat bottom with a thicker sandwiched base type kettle is probably a better piece. You can more easily utilize a hops dam or a device like a hop blocker with it and kettle losses might tend to be less. That bowl shaped bottom on my 15 gal  Keggle holds a lot of wort ( and trub ) and you have to tilt it to get the last of the wort. I have adjusted many of my recipes about 1 gallon larger in volume to compensate.

Or you can install a dip tube.

+1 to dip tubes. I set mine to leave 1/2 gallon in the kettle. No more worries of losing suction and having to lift my kettle. Also minimizes trub. It's nice.

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Re: Keggle not kegel
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2013, 01:20:48 PM »
I've used both keggle and 14 gallon flat bottom kettle and they both work the same on my burner. My 14 gallon kettle came with ball valve, sight glass and diverter plate and (importantly) tight fitting lid. much prefer brewing on the latter. Maybe a little more  expensive but has lasted 10 years thus far.

Agree keggle route is cheaper, just be sure you find a decommissioned one.

I think you have a great point here for anyone looking at getting a new or upgraded BK. The flat bottom with a thicker sandwiched base type kettle is probably a better piece. You can more easily utilize a hops dam or a device like a hop blocker with it and kettle losses might tend to be less. That bowl shaped bottom on my 15 gal  Keggle holds a lot of wort ( and trub ) and you have to tilt it to get the last of the wort. I have adjusted many of my recipes about 1 gallon larger in volume to compensate.

Or you can install a dip tube.

Mine plugged frequently so I quit using it. It also hits my IC and combined with my thermometer probe ti won't allow the IC to sit all the way down in the wort.

Occasionally I'll screw in a 1/2 copper elbow with male pipe adapter and that helps somewhat but it's still not ideal. The other dip tube I have is 1/2 inch stainless and runs out into the center of the keggle. Pellets plug it up the times I've used it.
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