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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2013, 09:39:52 AM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail

I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2013, 10:12:10 AM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail

I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.

Or boiling wort. After I KO, I start recirculating wort before turning on water for the immersion chiller. I assume same goes for a plate/counterflow chiller.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2013, 10:49:22 AM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail

I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.


I agree.  But until I did the impeller upgrade, the pump would cavitate if I ran boiling liquid through it.  So I developed the two stage strategy.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2013, 12:30:32 PM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail

I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.


I agree.  But until I did the impeller upgrade, the pump would cavitate if I ran boiling liquid through it.  So I developed the two stage strategy.
Andy Tveekrem at NHC recommended 'wet heat' sanitation. He said 180 for 20 minutes which is probably overkill, but...

An advantage he mentioned is that if there is a clump of something bad in your lines/equipment - Star San will sanitize the surface, but heat will penetrate the whole clump.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2013, 01:23:38 PM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail


I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.


I agree.  But until I did the impeller upgrade, the pump would cavitate if I ran boiling liquid through it.  So I developed the two stage strategy.
Andy Tveekrem at NHC recommended 'wet heat' sanitation. He said 180 for 20 minutes which is probably overkill, but...

An advantage he mentioned is that if there is a clump of something bad in your lines/equipment - Star San will sanitize the surface, but heat will penetrate the whole clump.

I bet not too much overkill. figure It has to heat the whole pump body/housing/impeller plus anything else you are trying to sanitize (chiller etc.) all the way to that 180 point. bet it would take at least 20 minutes.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2013, 01:25:32 PM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail


I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.


I agree.  But until I did the impeller upgrade, the pump would cavitate if I ran boiling liquid through it.  So I developed the two stage strategy.
Andy Tveekrem at NHC recommended 'wet heat' sanitation. He said 180 for 20 minutes which is probably overkill, but...

An advantage he mentioned is that if there is a clump of something bad in your lines/equipment - Star San will sanitize the surface, but heat will penetrate the whole clump.

I bet not too much overkill. figure It has to heat the whole pump body/housing/impeller plus anything else you are trying to sanitize (chiller etc.) all the way to that 180 point. bet it would take at least 20 minutes.

Oh that's a good point.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2013, 06:12:59 AM »
Well, I made my first purchase along the road to pimphood by picking up a KAB6 burner.  I read in another thread that it was the same burner as the blichmann so I sent with that.  Was just going to get get the BA14 burner itself (no stand) but my turkey fryer is pretty well shot so I'm doing double duty with this.
I will still use the turkey fyer you see in the picture to heat sparge water until I get a second burner and install it permanently in the frame.  I'm thinking one free standing and one mounted should suffice (free standing only so I have the turkey option listed above - don't want to have to take the whole brew stand).

There is also a gas line in that garage.  Does anyone know if I have an attachment put in if the pressure on the house hold tank matters?  Basically is it any different than using a 20 lb?  I go through a lot of 20 lbs and I will likely start going through even more now.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2013, 06:55:30 AM »
Tank pressure in either case will be high, just run the gas through the correct regulator to get the service pressure needed. I guess there would be a regulator on the tank, so you should check what pressure that puts out. My KAB6 uses a 30psi regulator. My regular turkey fryer uses a 10psi regulator. The air intakes on that burner are huge, you'll need to close them significantly to get a good flame.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2013, 11:35:15 AM »
And running the wort through hot is enough to sanitize a pump?  Or, how do you sanitize them?  Anyone use a "Chugger Pump"?  This is what my local guy has http://www.torontobrewing.ca/servlet/the-1367/Chugger-Brew-Pump-with/Detail

I generally recirculate StarSan through it, then boiling wort, but a lot of people I know do only the boiling wort.  The 809 has a kinda tough time with it, but since I upgraded to the 815 impeller it works great.

Boiling water run through the pump should be adequate. I plan to start running boiling water through my chiller as well.


I agree.  But until I did the impeller upgrade, the pump would cavitate if I ran boiling liquid through it.  So I developed the two stage strategy.

I have run into the same thing. I just have to make sure its primed, and sometimes I have to cut back the valve after I first start and open it back up after I have good flow.
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Re: My system needs pimping
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2013, 12:33:27 PM »
Why don't you just run NEARLY boiling water through it.
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