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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2013, 01:46:20 PM »
+1 to slowly pouring into water and stirring.
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2013, 02:49:40 PM »
+1 to slowly pouring into water and stirring.

Yep.  Exactly what I do.
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2013, 09:30:39 AM »
I always preheat my mash tun, but I've never seen it as requiring much additional time or effort. I just heat my strike water an additional 6 or 8 degrees, dump it in my cooler/tun, and let it sit for a few minutes before dumping in the grain. Maybe five minutes or so for the added heating and five to let the tun warm up. No biggie, and I hit my mash temps consistently.

Any problem with dough balls?  You'll get the same results, with very few if any dough balls, if you have the grain in first and dump the hot water on top of it.  I don't mean to start arguments on this, but it has been my experience.  YMMV

I guess I shouldn't have said "dump in the grain"; I actually pour it in pretty carefully and stir it, either while pouring if I have an "assistant brewer" with me to help, or pour a bit, stir, pour a bit more if I'm solo. Never had any problems with dough balls (knock wood).

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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2013, 10:21:11 AM »
Nice thing about doing it the other way dumping the water into the grain is that you don't need to do it slowly, just dump it in and the stirring pretty much takes care of itself except maybe in the corners or beneath the Bazooka (or equivalent).  Probably shaves 2 minutes off my brew day.   ;)
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2013, 08:07:27 AM »
I may preheat just to see how that affects, Ive usually been heating my strike water about 12 degrees higher than temp needed.  Going to see if that can help, plus only going to stir grain at beginning and very end so as not to lose temp.

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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2013, 08:58:29 AM »
Ahhh the old debate of adding grain to water or water to grain.... I do it together! I slowly add my grain to the water as it flows into the tun while stirring 3 or 4 times through the process... It's the best of both worlds!
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2013, 05:48:16 PM »
I had a poor grain crush at the LHBS.
Resulted in an efficiency of 51% vs 69% what I usually get.
Defiantly going to double crush to see how high I can the efficiency.

Question:  My IPA that was supposed to be 7% ABV will now come in at 5%.
I will call it a Hoppy Pale Ale  :o.... Will the flavor of the beer be the same with lower efficiency? Just less alcohol flavor...

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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2013, 06:21:23 PM »
Yes, it will still taste almost exactly the same but not as hot.
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #83 on: August 18, 2013, 06:58:34 PM »
Glad to hear that.

I may not dry hop ... already has 7 oz hops in a 5 gallon batch.

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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #84 on: August 18, 2013, 07:30:45 PM »
Do you double crush supporters add rice hulls?  Or do you think my mesh screen in my round mash tun should be fine to create a grain bed?

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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #85 on: August 19, 2013, 07:55:27 AM »
Glad to hear that.

I may not dry hop ... already has 7 oz hops in a 5 gallon batch.

do dry hop. if you want a hoppy pale ale. The dry hopping is not going to add any additional bitterness just aroma and a little flavor.
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2013, 08:05:57 AM »
Do you double crush supporters add rice hulls?  Or do you think my mesh screen in my round mash tun should be fine to create a grain bed?

That depends on your system.  I crush very fine but I've never needed rice hulls. 
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2013, 08:26:23 AM »
Glad to hear that.

I may not dry hop ... already has 7 oz hops in a 5 gallon batch.

do dry hop. if you want a hoppy pale ale. The dry hopping is not going to add any additional bitterness just aroma and a little flavor.

+1 absolutely dry hop it. IMO, there is a fine line between APA and IPA. If you're going to call it hoppy pale ale... Dry hop the poop out of it! So now you just have an IPA at lower ABV... You're just able to enjoy more in a sitting now  :P
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2013, 08:28:14 AM »
Do you double crush supporters add rice hulls?  Or do you think my mesh screen in my round mash tun should be fine to create a grain bed?

I don't double crush, but I super crush my grains. I generally don't use rice hulls... Just when I'm mashing wheat or more than a couple pounds of flaked malts.
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Re: Mash Efficiency Problem
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2013, 09:32:19 AM »
Do you double crush supporters add rice hulls?  Or do you think my mesh screen in my round mash tun should be fine to create a grain bed?

I have never used rice hulls. I won't say that I have never had a stuck runoff, I have for sure but I stir it up and re-vorlauf. Adds maybe 15 minutes to the brew day, 20 when I did an all wheat ale. I had to stir and restart that one about 3 times. gotta love the cheap and easy batch sparge system.

I have been brewing with 50%+/- flaked grain lately and I don't even get a stuck runoff every time. maybe every other time.
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