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When do you chuck in the aroma hops to get the most aroma out of them?

With 1 minute remaining in the boil
11 (52.4%)
Immediately after flame out
8 (38.1%)
After the wort has stopped steaming
0 (0%)
Later during chilling
2 (9.5%)

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Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« on: March 12, 2010, 10:55:17 PM »
Just curious what people's experience has taught them.  I think, for some reason, that I get less hop aroma now than years ago.  I have been tossing them in a little ways into the chilling process, while I used to dose the wort with a minute left in the boil.

Thanks in advance for your opinion.

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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 12:44:59 AM »
You don't have "dry-hopping as an option.  If it's strictly for aroma, I have to say dry-hop. 
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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 06:10:37 AM »
I guess it depends for me. ON some beers I like to add them at WP (or, of course, dry hop, which really should be on your list). But for most of my beers I add the aroma hops at 2 minutes. I don't have any proof but I feel that boiling them for a couple minutes helps to release a little more hop character. That said, I have the ability to chill very quickly. If my chilling took longer than 20 minutes I would always hop at the WP.
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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 08:00:46 AM »
I purposely left off dryhopping, and should have explained that, I guess.  I feel like the aroma that comes from the dryhopping is pretty different than that which comes from kettle hopping.  I like it too, but just wondered what method of kettle hopping people found most effective. 

MV-I think I agree with you on the 2 minute addition.  I don't know why, but the hops that get to boil for a quick bit seem to assert themselves more. 

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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 08:19:42 AM »
You don't have "dry-hopping as an option.  If it's strictly for aroma, I have to say dry-hop. 

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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2010, 01:53:56 PM »
I add mine in the last minute or so of the boil as well. I too can chill very fast, normally in less than 5 minutes for a 5 gallon batch. It works OK. I built a hop back but haven't got a chance to use it yet though. Hopefully next weekend I get to try it out. Need to get some type of big clamp to seal the lid on good.
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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2010, 06:26:33 PM »
Last night I made a pale ale that was sort of moderately hop bursted.  All the bittering was done within the last 20 minutes and the latest additions were at 2 and 1 minutes.  I'll bet it has a nice aroma.

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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2010, 11:13:58 AM »
Last night I made a pale ale that was sort of moderately hop bursted.  All the bittering was done within the last 20 minutes and the latest additions were at 2 and 1 minutes.  I'll bet it has a nice aroma.

There's IPA's made with this technique- all late additions. Wish I could find the link... >:(

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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 06:14:10 AM »
I was curious about what people were doing with this technique.  I read an older article by Jamil with his Evil Twin.  Also, last year, I tasted a very delicious hopbursted ale at a Long Beach Homebrewers meeting.

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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 08:10:23 AM »
Last night I made a pale ale that was sort of moderately hop bursted.  All the bittering was done within the last 20 minutes and the latest additions were at 2 and 1 minutes.  I'll bet it has a nice aroma.

There's IPA's made with this technique- all late additions. Wish I could find the link... >:(



Ya mean like this one?

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/GriffinSpitIPAAllGrain
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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 09:01:24 AM »
I hopburst almost all my IPA's.... except for dennys ;),
because I have been on this wacko quest for maximum flavor and aroma
with my system.

I tried massive vs moderate flameout additions, and with all other things assumed equal, could not get a appreciable boost in aroma.

I also noticed that the hydrophobic lupulin from large flamout additions also washes up on shore during the first part of fermentation, sticks to the sides up high, and is lost to the mix.

See yellow ring around the collar ;D








Personally, I have found huge flamouts to be a little wasteful, and add them at
dryhop instead.. aroma that can't be beat IMO. ;D






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Re: Best time to chuck in the aroma hops?
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 10:47:13 AM »
Although most of you are talking about the hop aroma typical for American ales here I’d like to chime in with aroma additions for Pilsners. It has been my experience supported by what I found in the literature, that you’ll get a better noble hop character when you boil the aroma hops for 5-10 min. The sources I have suggest that there are oxidizing reactions that create more stable aroma compounds. However, the character of the aroma will be different but more authentic. This talk about oxidation also got me thinking about exposing the hops to air for 1-2 days before using them to brew a beer. I have done that before but had no control that allows me to comment on the effect that this had on the beer.

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