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What's up with this?
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:06:16 PM »
Northern Brewer sends me an email saying it has been a long time since I have done business with them and they want me back. I always did like Northern Brewer but I deal with midwestsupplies because they use paypal. NB gives me 20% off my next order. It just so happens I need a sack of 2 row. So I order one. With my 20% discount plus shipping I am getting my 50lb sack of 2 row for $45. Now here is what I find confusing. They send me my UPS tracking number. I ordered yesterday scheduled delivery is tomorrow...very impressive..BUT the UPS tracking thing says it is 41.2lbs shipping weight???? Isn't a 50lb sack supposed to weigh 50lbs? Or did they take out my 20% savings in grain?  :o
Mind you I am not in anyway trying to slight NB. They are a great company to do business with. I am sure I am getting a 50lb sack. This is just a mystery and I am wondering if anybody has an explanation?
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 11:22:04 PM »
Could be the dimensional weight (volume in cubic inches/166). But still a bit odd, because UPS charges the greater of the the two when calculating dimensional weight vs actual weight.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 03:04:59 AM »
That is a bit odd. Hmmm. Nonetheless, that's a solid deal. My LHBS has them at $35 right not, but with shopping, $45 is great. It usually cost more for shipping me a sack than buying one. I usually don't deal bulk grain online. I got one of these promo emails a couple weeks ago. It was ironic since I got it during their 24 hour flat rate shipping promo. Ironic because I hadn't ordered from them since they dropped their flat rate shipping. I took advantage of the deals and got all the hardware for my keezer that is in the making.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 05:15:40 AM »
I got one of those coupons too, let my friend order a bunch of stuff with it.  It happened to coincide with a 5.99 shipping day too so he really got a nice deal.

I'm sure your sack will be the usual 50lb.  Thats a pretty good price, about what I pay around here.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 05:27:16 AM »
Maybe they took 20% off the weight too  ;D
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 06:18:09 AM »
The same thing happened to me on my last order for a 55lb sack of Best Malz pils. You'll get your 50lb sack, don't worry.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 06:36:40 AM »
The same 20% off offer came from midwestsupplies not long ago. Those 2 online shops now have the same parent company.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 06:46:44 AM »
The same 20% off offer came from midwestsupplies not long ago. Those 2 online shops now have the same parent company.

Who would that be...AB Inbev? ;D
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2013, 07:05:06 AM »
The same 20% off offer came from midwestsupplies not long ago. Those 2 online shops now have the same parent company.

Who would that be...AB Inbev? ;D

No, it is a VC firm looking to profit from the growth of the hobby. Got that from a GC member at the NHC.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2013, 07:36:57 AM »
The same 20% off offer came from midwestsupplies not long ago. Those 2 online shops now have the same parent company.

Who would that be...AB Inbev? ;D

No, it is a VC firm looking to profit from the growth of the hobby. Got that from a GC member at the NHC.

Out of curiosity, how long ago did that happen?
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 07:52:47 AM »
This is all very interesting.  Or, I guess it could just be a mistake by UPS or something.  To the OP, when you receive your bag please weigh it and let us know the results.  I'm very curious.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2013, 08:09:36 AM »
The same 20% off offer came from midwestsupplies not long ago. Those 2 online shops now have the same parent company.

Who would that be...AB Inbev? ;D

No, it is a VC firm looking to profit from the growth of the hobby. Got that from a GC member at the NHC.

Out of curiosity, how long ago did that happen?
Zin the last year IIRC.
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2013, 10:51:07 AM »

Out of curiosity, how long ago did that happen?

Midwest was bought first and you can find news stories on that.
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/print-edition/2011/02/18/banker-taps-investors-to-buy-into.html?page=all

The NB purchase has a lot less information. This is the best story I found, but it only mentions funding. That isn't surprising as these are small companies by sales, so the business press doesn't cover them with much detail.
http://www.themiddlemarket.com/news/yucaipa-buys-majority-stake-in-brew-hub-100m-238710-1.html

The two companies seem to still be running as independent entities, if in name only.

David Kidd's LinkedIn page shows him as President of NB, while previously CEO of Midwest
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-kidd/2/b64/167
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2013, 11:18:58 AM »
So...is MoreBeer/MoreFlavor next up on the acquisition block for this group?
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Re: What's up with this?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2013, 11:00:11 AM »
Sack just arrived. Box was marked 42lbs. Sack was an unopened and completely unmarked sack of 2 row. It filled 2 5 gallon buckets to completely level with the top and left me some over to put in a 3rd bucket, so there is no doubt it was a 50lb sack. They must have gone by dimensional weight.
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