I use WLP 565 for al my Saisons and I like to start around 65 degrees. In a few days it will come up on it's own to about 70. Then after a few more days I start ramping up the temp to the mid 80's. The last one I did my temp controler screwed up and it went to 95 degrees. A buddy who is a BJCP judge was just over and he said that was the best Saison he ever had. So, from now own, I will start at the mid 60's and ramp up to 95.