Membership questions? Log in issues? Email info@brewersassociation.org

Author Topic: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?  (Read 6838 times)

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 6858

Offline erockrph

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7788
  • Chepachet, RI
    • The Hop WHisperer
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 04:28:51 pm »
I think if we ever had a S. cerevesia infection in the hospital I'd ask the lab if they could prop up a slant for me...
Eric B.

Finally got around to starting a homebrewing blog: The Hop Whisperer

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 04:33:45 pm »
Good thing it's as uncommon as it is.  There's been a small fortune worth of bottled Belgians pass through me over the years !
Jon H.

Offline morticaixavier

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7781
  • Underhill VT
    • The Best Artist in the WORLD!!!!!
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2013, 04:34:51 pm »
who says it has to be bottle conditioned? if it's not sterile filtered or pasteurized there is still live yeast in there.

I think we should avoid antibiotics instead of beer.
"Creativity is the residue of wasted time"
-A Einstein

"errors are [...] the portals of discovery"
- J Joyce

Offline klickitat jim

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8604
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 04:37:08 pm »
Oy vey!
DUI is .08. But it's not percent even though some signs say that. Breath alcohol is measured in grams per decalitre or .08 grams in a decalitre of breath.
The measurements are close though, or so I'm told. FYI, .3 would be dead or comatose for most people, so IF this guy stumbled in and said anything understandable, he's a hard core conditioned drunk. The amount of beer one would half to brew in their gut to get to that level wouldn't fit. If he weight 100 lbs he'd need 120 ounces of 4.5% in an hour to get there.

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 04:42:42 pm »
who says it has to be bottle conditioned? if it's not sterile filtered or pasteurized there is still live yeast in there.

I think we should avoid antibiotics instead of beer.
+1 on the antibiotics.  The amount of antibiotics we ingest from meat. eggs, milk etc. is scary.  Kind of lessens the effectiveness of antibiotics we actually need.
Jon H.

Offline morticaixavier

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7781
  • Underhill VT
    • The Best Artist in the WORLD!!!!!
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 04:43:34 pm »
Oy vey!
DUI is .08. But it's not percent even though some signs say that. Breath alcohol is measured in grams per decalitre or .08 grams in a decalitre of breath.
The measurements are close though, or so I'm told. FYI, .3 would be dead or comatose for most people, so IF this guy stumbled in and said anything understandable, he's a hard core conditioned drunk. The amount of beer one would half to brew in their gut to get to that level wouldn't fit. If he weight 100 lbs he'd need 120 ounces of 4.5% in an hour to get there.

okay  but if un-metabolized alcohol was wafting out of his gut he wouldn't need that BAC level to blow that level. problem with breathalyzers.
"Creativity is the residue of wasted time"
-A Einstein

"errors are [...] the portals of discovery"
- J Joyce

Offline klickitat jim

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8604
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 04:53:45 pm »
Mmmm, ya maybe. But the premise here is he's not a drinker supposedly. My point is that I slightly doubt he could brew three fortys of old English in his gut and not digest any of it till it's fully fermented. Then digest it all at once.
Breath tests are accurate if the operator does it right. Blood is most accurate, but if breath is administered properly they are very close. Then, if the driver has been all over the road and schmucked a light pole, who's going to argue a couple of tenths of a gram?

Offline klickitat jim

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8604
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 05:01:25 pm »
Gut brew for 100# guy
2# of fine crushed 2 row
Gallon and a half water.
Get an infection so your body temp reaches 140°
Don't Pee for two weeks.

Sorry guys, lol!

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 05:15:26 pm »
 ;D.  Funny stuff. I say wrap him in an electric blanket set on high, to maintain fermentation temps.  Kind of like a giant Fermwrap.
Jon H.

Offline klickitat jim

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8604
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 05:36:03 pm »
Dambit! 100 ibus in the sinus, not good.
It is the part of the moronic story I liked best. Conversion!  Though I suppose he could just drink a gallon of hummingbird food and achieve the same result. You still have the problem of needing a primary stomach to ferment in. And I bet even belly saccromices put off strange esters even at 98°

Offline HobsonDrake

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 105
  • Beaverton, OR
    • Brew Batch List
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 06:50:35 pm »
No mention of the CO2 that should have been belching up as this was happening.
Needs more research if you ask me.
Check out my brew history and recipes at http://www.hobsondrake.com/BrewList.html

John D.

narvin

  • Guest
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 07:03:17 pm »
Talk about blow off!

Offline jamminbrew

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 820
  • theAntipunk
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 07:51:17 pm »
No mention of the CO2 that should have been belching up as this was happening.
Needs more research if you ask me.
I'd be more worried by blowoff from the other end...
In caelo cerivisiae nil, hic igitur bibimus.

Offline dmtaylor

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 4724
  • Lord Idiot the Lazy
    • YEAST MASTER Perma-Living
Re: Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 05:10:30 am »
I was thinking the same thing.  This guy must be belching and farting some horrendous stenches, and if not, he is bound to explode at some point.
Dave

The world will become a much more pleasant place to live when each and every one of us realizes that we are all idiots.