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sake yeast in beer?
« on: September 03, 2013, 09:42:57 AM »
Any reason I can't use WLP705 in beer?

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 09:49:00 AM »
It might not attenuate like it does in sake but I can't think of any other reason. It's an interesting experiment if nothing else.
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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 09:53:07 AM »
I just emailed white labs to see if they have any warnings or advice

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2013, 10:35:19 AM »
Here is the response I got:
"I can't think of a good reason not to use it, it is Saccharomyces after all so it should ferment just fine.  The flavor production is more suited to Sake as far as ester profile goes, but don't let that stop you from experimenting with it.  Let me know how the beer turns out!"
 
I am hoping to be brewing my "asian influenced" beer in the next couple of weeks.

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2013, 03:42:39 PM »
Sakeromyces?

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2013, 09:29:24 AM »
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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 06:50:01 PM »
Sake is something that is at its best in context. For example, Okinawa, winds in excess of 100 mph, base on lock down, and you happen to have a hidden hurricane fifth. Mmmmm

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 10:10:45 AM »
Recipe will be something like this

75% pilsner
20% flaked rice
5% carapils

mash at 150
ferment with WLP705 around 73F

Magnum - bittering
Cascade - flavor/aroma
4 g finely grated ginger with 5 min remaining in boil
"dry tea" 2 oz of loose leaf green tea for 7 days.

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 10:24:18 AM »
If you are going for an Asian influence beer, may I suggest Sorachi Ace Hops. It's a Japanese hop which is very good as an aroma hop. It has a lemony, citrus taste and aroma. I use in my summer ale with excellent results.
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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 10:29:38 AM »
If you are going for an Asian influence beer, may I suggest Sorachi Ace Hops. It's a Japanese hop which is very good as an aroma hop. It has a lemony, citrus taste and aroma. I use in my summer ale with excellent results.

That would be my preferred hop. I am pretty stuck on using stuff that I already have or that I can get easily. Do you know of somewhere that has Sorachi at a good price?

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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2013, 02:58:54 PM »
9 days in the bucket and it has gone from 1.045 to 1.005.

The beer has a pleasant lemony/fruity aroma and the flavor profile considerably influenced by the sake yeast. I limited the ginger addition to 4 g and it is not noticeable right now. I am not sure how to describe it but the mouthfeel reminds me of sake. the cascade hops seem to work well. Planning to add my "dry tea" addition in a couple of days although I am assuming it won't be too noticable in the final beer. I think this will definitely come off as some sort of beer/sake hybrid.


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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 03:35:47 PM »
Thanks for the update! Sounds like a tasty experiment. It also sounds like sake yeast would be an interesting primary yeast for a Brett-aged beer or even a sour. I'll have to add this to my never-ending "experiments to try" list.
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Re: sake yeast in beer?
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2013, 04:27:16 PM »
If you are going for an Asian influence beer, may I suggest Sorachi Ace Hops. It's a Japanese hop which is very good as an aroma hop. It has a lemony, citrus taste and aroma. I use in my summer ale with excellent results.

That would be my preferred hop. I am pretty stuck on using stuff that I already have or that I can get easily. Do you know of somewhere that has Sorachi at a good price?

Try Midwest Supplies. They have pellets at $2.50/ounce.
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