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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 07:41:07 PM »
Can Biofine be added at the point in my process?

I add it to the keg before purging, then rack the beer in on top of it. I figure a little turbulence will help to get it evenly distributed.

then I assume the first pint is a sludgy yeasty mess that you discard, just like with gelatin? and clear after that?

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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 10:00:43 PM »
then I assume the first pint is a sludgy yeasty mess that you discard, just like with gelatin? and clear after that?

Not even a pint. I've crashed the beer already, so there's very little yeast. I'm just going after haze. I end up pouring off ~4 fl oz, sometimes twice.
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 06:01:04 AM »
then I assume the first pint is a sludgy yeasty mess that you discard, just like with gelatin? and clear after that?

Not even a pint. I've crashed the beer already, so there's very little yeast. I'm just going after haze. I end up pouring off ~4 fl oz, sometimes twice.

Sound great except for the pricing. 50mL/bbl is about 8ml/5gal, right? so the little 1oz bottle is going to only do 4 kegs... or have you found a source for a larger bottle? (or is my math wrong?)

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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 07:42:14 AM »
Right. A 1 fl oz bottle is a little ridiculous. Googling, it looks like Brewmasters Warehouse and Midwest are at least putting it in 2 fl oz bottles, but that's still not much. I just went ahead and got a liter from BSG. The refrigerated shelf life is two years.
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 07:49:18 AM »
You mean direct from these guys http://bsgcraftbrewing.com/BeerClarification.html??  doesn't look like they'll sell to "the little guy" i.e. me.... or???

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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 08:04:00 AM »
I'm assuming the beer is already carbonated at this point, Or is it carbed up while it is dropping the haze? To be more concise could I add it or gelatin to a keg that is already carbonated?
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 08:08:55 AM »
I'd be curious to know if it works better than gelatin, to justify the high $$.  Gelatin is cheap and works great at the home level. 
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2014, 08:13:01 AM »
I'm assuming the beer is already carbonated at this point, Or is it carbed up while it is dropping the haze? To be more concise could I add it or gelatin to a keg that is already carbonated?

I've used gelatin on a carbed keg and it worked fine, euge.  Can't speak for the Biofine though.
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2014, 08:45:17 AM »
Your local homebrew shop and/or brewery will have a BSG account, but no, they don't do retail.

I'm not sure I get the cost argument. Even with the LHBS markup, 8 mL of Biofine is less than a buck. Gelatin is basically free, but it's a pain to use, makes a mess, and while it's good at removing yeast, the mechanism is electrostatic, so it doesn't do much for haze.
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2014, 01:39:17 PM »
You mean direct from these guys http://bsgcraftbrewing.com/BeerClarification.html??  doesn't look like they'll sell to "the little guy" i.e. me.... or???
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Re: Using Biofine Clear
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2014, 03:26:48 PM »
I'm assuming the beer is already carbonated at this point, Or is it carbed up while it is dropping the haze? To be more concise could I add it or gelatin to a keg that is already carbonated?

I've used gelatin on a carbed keg and it worked fine, euge.  Can't speak for the Biofine though.

Thanks man. I'm still researching this as noted above gelatine does little for haze... Which would normally be my problem. I can crash the yeast out usually but some strains are stubborn pesky mofos. Gelatine for them- and biofine for the haze. OOOH! Can they be used simultaneously? :D
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