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Re: simcoe
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2013, 12:50:30 PM »
I think it has to do with where you brew with them. I live on the south slope of the Simcoe mountains. Must be the trick.

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Re: simcoe
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2013, 09:59:54 PM »
So here's the plan

40 liter batch

12 kg pale malt
450 grams crystal 60L
360 grams Munich malt (I've got it, and it might add a little maltiness + a little color correction)

60 grams magnum FWH (calculated as 20 minutes) giving 28.5 IBU
24 grams simcoe with 5 minutes remaining for 3.2 IBU
24 grams cascade with 5 minutes remaining for 1.3 IBU
60 grams simcoe for a 45 minute hop stand
60 grams cascade for 45 minute hop stand

Ferment half with White labs burton ale and half with reused yeast from Prairie Ale Project 'Merica saison.

Dry hop with 60 grams each simcoe and cascade.

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Re: simcoe
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2013, 10:53:46 PM »
WLP023 is pretty lively. Use a blowoff.

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Re: simcoe
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2013, 09:47:04 AM »
Thoughts?

I get a lot of flavor from FWH.  I hate Magnum as a flavor or aroma hop.  YMMV.  Something to consider.
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Re: simcoe
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2013, 10:05:19 AM »
Thoughts?

I get a lot of flavor from FWH.  I hate Magnum as a flavor or aroma hop.  YMMV.  Something to consider.

I did consider that. maybe just move it to 60 miutes
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Re: simcoe
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2013, 10:49:30 AM »
I'd bitter with Simcoe FWH

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Re: simcoe
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2013, 01:51:46 PM »
I'd bitter with Simcoe FWH

I could do that but I'd have to figure out where to pull it from cause this recipe already has all the simcoe I own in it. I suppose I could order for the dry hop.
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Re: simcoe
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2013, 05:14:26 PM »
K so moved some stuff around.

now,

44 grams Simcoe, 34 grams cascade @ FWH
60 grams simcoe, 60 grams cascade Hop stand (45 minutes)
50 grams simcoe, 50 grams cacade dry hop
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Re: simcoe
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2013, 06:27:22 PM »
K so moved some stuff around.

now,

44 grams Simcoe, 34 grams cascade @ FWH
60 grams simcoe, 60 grams cascade Hop stand (45 minutes)
50 grams simcoe, 50 grams cacade dry hop
Looks pretty tasty !
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Re: simcoe
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2013, 09:25:24 AM »
I think you'll like it. I think Simcoe bittered beer is best with a month of conditioning

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Re: simcoe
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2013, 04:55:34 PM »
Well I kegged half of this batch that was fermented with slurry from a prior batch that was itself grown up from dregs from a bottle of Prairie Ale 'Merica saison. I don't know what this yeast is beyond that they condition with a white wine yeast and two strains of brett.

I added 25 grams each simcoe and cascade to the keg in a fine mesh bag and let it settle for a couple days.

First pour was cloudy and pretty thick with yeast and a huge in your face hop/dank/grapefruit bomb. I am often reminded, because the idea just doesn't seem to stay in my head, that grapefruit is a really complex kinda funky aroma. I mean there is the clean sweet citrus but there is also some muskiness in grapefruit so I think the simcoe is actually accentuating that grapefruit aspect from the cascade.

after a couple more days and a couple more pours it's less yeasty and some of the explosive hop character is settled down (at least some must have been carryover with the yeast) but it's still quite nice and very hoppy.

I don't usually brew really hoppy beer but this is one for sure.

It's going to my brew clubs xmas bash tomorrow night, let's see what others think.
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Re: simcoe
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 05:07:29 PM »
It's going to my brew clubs xmas bash tomorrow night, let's see what others think.

They are going to hate it. Just package it up and ship it to me.

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Re: simcoe
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2013, 10:11:04 PM »
It's going to my brew clubs xmas bash tomorrow night, let's see what others think.

They are going to hate it. Just package it up and ship it to me.

I'll pack a bottle up before it goes and ship it out to you.

Merry GBA xmas
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