[tschmidlin]

I've got nothing.  Everything I can think of seems fine.

Have you asked a second opinion?

[natebriscoe]

Ro water, hops are from several big online retailers.  Over several years, some are hop union some are strait from the hop farmers.

You could bring your fruit loops beer to the Christmas party and make us drink them. Perhaps we'll even figure something about this out while drinking Imperial beers! 

I can do that, I did had some at the last kcbm meeting but didn't get to it. After several imperial beers you probably won't taste fruit loops anyway.

[HoosierBrew]

Were these all single-hop beers, or did you blend with other hops?  I could see how blending with Citra or Mosaic for example might give a perception of that.  And did it diminish at all using a clean strain vs a British one ?

[AmandaK]

Ro water, hops are from several big online retailers.  Over several years, some are hop union some are strait from the hop farmers.

You could bring your fruit loops beer to the Christmas party and make us drink them. Perhaps we'll even figure something about this out while drinking Imperial beers! 

I can do that, I did had some at the last kcbm meeting but didn't get to it. After several imperial beers you probably won't taste fruit loops anyway.

Well let's try for a fruit loop beer early in the evening then.

[natebriscoe]

Were these all single-hop beers, or did you blend with other hops?  I could see how blending with Citra or Mosaic for example might give a perception of that.  And did it diminish at all using a clean strain vs a British one ?

cascade and centennial in both. No real difference between 001 and 002

[klickitat jim]

Maybe a tad of acetaldehyde plus citrus hops, plus a little esters, ending up tasting like fruit loops? Just a guess.

[kmccaf]

Do you use a combo of pils+2-row? I sometimes get a candy-like sweetness in my AIPAs when I use a split base of the 2.

[natebriscoe]

I've got nothing.  Everything I can think of seems fine.

Have you asked a second opinion?

not yet, but have done side by side with the commercial examples that don't have this character.

[tschmidlin]

I've got nothing.  Everything I can think of seems fine.

Have you asked a second opinion?

not yet, but have done side by side with the commercial examples that don't have this character.

Maybe Amanda can figure it out when she tastes it.  Let us know, I'm curious if you can track it down.

[natebriscoe]

I've got nothing.  Everything I can think of seems fine.

Have you asked a second opinion?

not yet, but have done side by side with the commercial examples that don't have this character.

Maybe Amanda can figure it out when she tastes it.  Let us know, I'm curious if you can track it down.

Will do. I have seen the same complaint about centennial online before and not seen a solution.

[natebriscoe]

Do you use a combo of pils+2-row? I sometimes get a candy-like sweetness in my AIPAs when I use a split base of the 2.

just 2 row and c60 on celebration and 2 row and munich and a pinch of c30 on union Jack.

[natebriscoe]

I've got nothing.  Everything I can think of seems fine.

Have you asked a second opinion?

not yet, but have done side by side with the commercial examples that don't have this character.

Maybe Amanda can figure it out when she tastes it.  Let us know, I'm curious if you can track it down.

well I am going to say it due to hops interacting with yeast (best guess). With some age (loss of some dry hops) it went away.

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[HoosierBrew]

Meant to ask before - did you dry hop with the Centennial ?

[natebriscoe]

Meant to ask before - did you dry hop with the Centennial ?

  yes cascade and centennial

[HoosierBrew]

I would try letting your beer clear a bit, rack to secondary and then do your dry hopping. Stan Hieronymous wrote an article in Zymurgy earlier this year about dry hopping experiments he did. The takeaway was that he felt that hop aroma and flavor was better in beers dry hopped this way. The reason: dry hopping in primary with a fair amount of yeast still in suspension can produce some undesireable aromas/flavors from the interaction of hop compounds with excess yeast. I switched to doing this and I like my hop aroma/flavor better than before - it seems cleaner and better. I'd be curious to see if it prevented this in the future for you. It might.