[blatz]

i like crystal and liberty, but also, i actually have liked US tettnang better than the original in recent years.

[hopfenundmalz]

Hasn't DNA testing shown US Tettnang to actually be Fuggles?

[morticaixavier]

I've just started experimenting with these varieties and I'm enjoying them a lot. I've tried liberty and sterling so far, I would agree that the sterling has a note of American style citrus hop but a lot of spice, at least the crop that I got. I'm going to be exploring them a lot more I think so this thread is timely for me.

[blatz]

Hasn't DNA testing shown US Tettnang to actually be Fuggles?

If that is the case, I will retract my statement 

[Pinski]

Well thinking about what I use the most of...
Mt. Hood, Liberty and Sterling.  My Mt. Hood and Sterling bines grow very well too.

[denny]

Hasn't DNA testing shown US Tettnang to actually be Fuggles?

Yep.  Tastes like it, too.

IIRC, in a Zymurgy article about pils and hops, Ted Hausotter found Mt. Hood to be the closest to Mittelfruh.

[hopfenundmalz]

Hasn't DNA testing shown US Tettnang to actually be Fuggles?

Yep.  Tastes like it, too.

IIRC, in a Zymurgy article about pils and hops, Ted Hausotter found Mt. Hood to be the closest to Mittelfruh.

That was true. I think he also stated that if you want Hallertau Mittelfrueh, make sure that is what you are buying. Generic Hallertau could Hallertau Gold, Hallertau Tradition, or whatever the brokers ship.

Of the German varieties, I think Hallertau tradition is not too far off.

[denny]

Of the German varieties, I think Hallertau tradition is not too far off.

Yeah, that's what I've found, too.

[bluesman]

Mount Hood is a favorite for many styles. Liberty and Sterling tied for a close second. I think it depends from crop year to crop year too.

[chumley]

American "noble" hops are okay in pale ales, American wheat beers and the like, but they ain't no substitution for the real McCoys.

Personally, I find Styrian Goldings to have more of a noble hop flavor/aroma than any of the so-called American "nobe" hops.

[denny]

American "noble" hops are okay in pale ales, American wheat beers and the like, but they ain't no substitution for the real McCoys.

Personally, I find Styrian Goldings to have more of a noble hop flavor/aroma than any of the so-called American "nobe" hops.

Yeah, but you're a Fuggle lover! 

[chumley]

That is a fact. Give me dirt, leave the grapefruit behind.

[klickitat jim]

It's not dirt, it's earthiness. You know, like a rotting fir stump with a mushroom growing on it, and Puck sitting next to it smoking a pipe. Dirt... ha!

[denny]

It's not dirt, it's earthiness. You know, like a rotting fir stump with a mushroom growing on it, and Puck sitting next to it smoking a pipe. Dirt... ha!

No, it's dirt....

[ajk]

Hasn't DNA testing shown US Tettnang to actually be Fuggles?

Yep.  Tastes like it, too.

This is interesting to hear because I've been using US Tettnang in German lagers (perhaps based on Paul's recommendation) and have been really pleased with the results.  The beers have also performed well in competitions.

Sounds like some triangle tests are in order!