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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2011, 01:29:38 pm »
Second Pull Chilled and Carbonated, Clear and red, tart and cherry
Good stuff my friends.... More like a Sour cherry soft drink than a 9% AVB Beer. Sneaky! ;D


For some reason, difficult to photograph. I will try again on a sunny day.


Oh that looks awesome! I need to try my hand at making a sour beer.
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2011, 01:37:30 pm »
Wes, Did I ever tell you to dim your headlights??  ::)

Oh, BTW,  Thanx
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2011, 01:40:15 pm »
Wes, Did I ever tell you to dim your headlights??  ::)

Oh, BTW,  Thanx

LOL. Hey let me know when you plan on coming down this way again and maybe we can meet up for a beer or two.
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2011, 01:42:16 pm »
Be my Pleasure!  ;D
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2011, 02:26:27 pm »
Update again. Brewed a beer in prep for an upcoming Harvest out of the Oak.
Here is the O.G. shot. Same base beer I have put in here all along
just one more time. Been over 6 months since I sampled hope it is ok in there.
That seems like a long time.  Anyhow, the solera continues...... :P

Edit: Today 1.07.12          F.G.  rang in at 1.010 for abv of 6.7% this is fine beer for the oak. That D2 syrup
makes a nice flavorful beer and Herman Holtrop's rochefort clone is a good un!
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2012, 02:14:25 pm »
Well harvest time 2012. F.G. is at 1.005 ish and the beer is mighty tastey.
I  pulled pushed 5 gallons out. The keg on the right is the gas buffer keg and pressure
is low at about 4 psi....that gas goes into the top of the cask and pushes
beer out the racking cane into the keg on the left....that exhausts from the
pop off press relief valve. I tied a paint strainer bag on to the racking cane
and sanitized it before immersion. Used dental floss to tie it with. Keeps
the thing from plugging up with cherry residuals. The floss provides a means to extract the
paint strainer bag should it decide to wander off and the floss is long enough to hang down
the side of the cask.
 enjoy,...,.,,. ;D

Racked that base beer above into the cask and will top off with some other ales I
have around here that need someplace to live.  Next pull will be more of a blend .....  
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2012, 03:45:13 pm »
that's very cool! so do you ferment the base beer first or just add the wort to the barrel?
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2012, 03:52:39 pm »
Very nice... I'm jealous!   
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2012, 05:08:35 pm »
that's very cool! so do you ferment the base beer first or just add the wort to the barrel?
The oak is for secondary or tertiary holding. Primary in buckets.  BTW from un biased
sources of samplers this beer is to die for good. Wish you all could sample this
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2012, 08:26:01 pm »
Very nice work Dave...I Iike your techniques. I plan to incorporate your transfer method for my barrel.  :)
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2012, 09:51:19 am »
UPDATE:
Pulled 5 gallons out of the solera late last winter. Finally got it rotated into the
serving fridge this week. Here is a pic of the current pull from this project.
Suffice it to say it is NOT a bad experience.  And it is a taste experience to be
treasured for certain. 
Light ring of foam around the periphy of the glass lasts a long time.
Tart sour cherry. The mahleb has a little bitter almond note coming thru.
I would buy this if it were available commercially.....enjoy....

Glass got coated with condensate b4 i shot the pic and the color is a bit more rosy than the pic.
Alcohol is definately in there for sure....sneaky
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2012, 04:28:19 pm »
Well, I can now say first hand that this is an amazing brew!

1Vert was kind enough to do a bottle swap with me and I got to sample this beer last night. yummers!

The cherry character was present in both the aroma and the flavour but never made such a huge impact that you would say 'oh cherry beer'.

The sour/funky level was just about perfect with some pleasent funky notes but not over the top FUNK (think Red Hot Chili Peppers rather than Parlament Funkadelic) and the sourness was just enough to complement the tartness from the cherries.

Really well done. I am super jealous that there is a house in BFE Whyoming with gallons and gallons of this beer available and I am stuck in effing northern california with just boring old Russian River to drink  ;)
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2012, 05:37:41 pm »
He was also kind enough to share this exceptional beer with me!

No head but this was expected. Faint cherry wood-like nose which evolved into almond amarettoesque characteristics.

Darkish but totally bright with subdued carbonation- not by any means flat but not overly fizzy. One is able to taste this beer.

Vanilla cream almond cherry pie. Or cherry pie ala mode. I was thinking pastry? with the first several sips trying to nail down the flavors. Subtle yet complex. Faint woody earthy notes but without the oaky tannins I was expecting. I would have never been able to tell it was aged in oak. No sense of the 9% abv, and yet this is the only bitterness present that I can tell. Little to no hop bitterness. Faintly sour- not sweet at all yet manages to convey itself as such- I suggested this as an after dinner drink in small quantities.

I didn't think it was funky at all and sipped on it for 45 minutes as the brew warmed. The best sour beer I've ever had.

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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2012, 07:11:51 pm »
Thank you
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2012, 08:17:26 pm »
"canned whole pie cherries in water...from a personal friend that is connected
to a restaurant...they were brought by Sysco foods.. 6ea. #303 cans =approx 5 gal.=case lot

The mahleb was bought whole and I put the cherry pit hearts through the grain mill and then
 wet it good with everclear to keep it sanitized...added that to the cask."



jezus! Good to know canned cherries are just as good.
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