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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2010, 03:41:38 AM »
Texas? No sir. Only a couple thousand miles away.  ;D
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2010, 05:21:26 AM »
Love that color.  I want to try making something similiar.  Sounds and looks tasty.

Where did you get 5 gallons of sour pie cherries?

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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2010, 05:52:44 AM »
Love that color.  I want to try making something similiar.  Sounds and looks tasty.

Where did you get 5 gallons of sour pie cherries?


Canned whole pie cherries in water...from a personal friend that is connected
to a restaurant...they were brought by Sysco foods.. 6ea. #303 cans =approx 5 gal.=case lot
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2010, 06:07:58 AM »
Would you mind posting your recipe?

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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2010, 07:02:18 AM »
Would you mind posting your recipe?


It is simply Herman Holtrop's Rochefort clone recipe...(google that)I made 10 gallons of it.
to which I added one half pound of mahleb. EDIT: NOT in the boil but in the cask=secondary.
 The mahleb was bought whole and I put the cherry pit hearts through the grain mill and then
 wet it good with everclear to keep it sanitized...added that to the cask.

Next I added the canned cherries and 2 packs of WY Bret Lambicus and the dregs from
several bottles of Avery Depuceleuse (limited bbl release can't help you with that one).
That's it....(you could lower the mahleb to 1/4 pound and still be ok...that stuff is strong)

Method is kind of weird with the Oak cask...first I put the beer in that new oak bbl for a month...then
I pulled 5 gallons of that out and carbed it up...that pull made the room for the above additions....so I suppose
you could get similar results with carboy or corny ageing with oak cubes. Just brew 5 gal. of the base beer,
add 1/8 pound of the mahleb and one pack of bret and 2.5 gal of canned cherries...that will be very close I'd imagine.

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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2010, 07:08:45 AM »
Thanks.  Looking good.  8)
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2010, 08:11:13 AM »
Texas? No sir. Only a couple thousand miles away.  ;D
no matter offer still stands

Perhaps someday. :)
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2010, 10:15:07 AM »
Thanks.  Looking good.  8)
Let me know if ya take the plunge....  :D
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2010, 11:49:34 AM »
Thanks.  Looking good.  8)
Let me know if ya take the plunge....  :D

Will do...hopefully by the winter.
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2010, 09:44:50 AM »
Its been awhile since I contributed to this thread, but thought I would add that when I used Mahlab previously I did not grind it.  I just added the pits to the fermenter and left things alone.  For what its worth, I have recently added whole cherries and concentrate to 10 gallons of 3-year-old lambic in an oak barrel.  The cloudy appearance and little floating colonies are very similar to the photos above.  I have not been tasting as much, and plan on letting things settle and clear before I rack anything. I am, however looking forward to the day it clears and I have kriek on draft.
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2010, 10:23:07 AM »
Update time....
Today I harvested 5 Gallons out of the Solera.
Spgr 1.006


Here is a photo of the Harvest as it was going down...

I hooked a buffer Keg up to recieve the gas from my keg manifold...and then filled that mt keg
with CO2 then pushed it straight on over to the Solera...gas in .....Beer out which you can
see in this photo of the plumbing.


I got the keg of Kriek in the referigerator under 25 Psi...to carb it up .... 8)

Edit: Back in the mix today went 8# of Frozen/Thawed Balaton Cherries and a Quart of pie cherry juice
left over from the 1st fill AND about 4 gallons more of Rochefort that I brewed as a top off beer...worked NICE.
Busy mornin in the brewery....some clean up left to do...
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2010, 10:25:56 AM »
Looking good!

Where did you get the barrel and stand setup?  I like that... :)
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2010, 10:33:59 AM »
Looking good!

Where did you get the barrel and stand setup?  I like that... :)
Ron, Where ya been??
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1834.0
I built it a while back...pix are here ::)
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2010, 10:46:33 AM »
Looking good!

Where did you get the barrel and stand setup?  I like that... :)
Ron, Where ya been??
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1834.0
I built it a while back...pix are here ::)

I was busy that day.  ;D

Nice build!
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Re: sour cherry rochefort brett in oak
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2010, 12:04:02 PM »
1st 5 gallon pull out of the solera...carbed for a week in the corny keg @ 25 psi CO2
Here is the money shot...lol



Taste is sour cherry aroma is heavenly floral and lingers long on the taste buds.
I am well pleased and blessed to have this beer to enjoy.
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