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India Pale Lagers
« on: November 27, 2013, 10:47:34 AM »
I don't know if this is a national trend or just something that is popping up here in Southern California, but I've seen a lot of "India Pale Lagers" appearing on menus recently.

Anyone else notice this?

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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 10:50:05 AM »
Yes. 
And there's one in my fermenter as well.  I've had some good one's so I thought what the heck and pitched some 34-70 to half of the last IPA wort i made.  Might be ready to keg this weekend.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 10:55:33 AM »
I've had Sam Adams double agent IPL and didn't care for it. It just seemed wrong.  But that's just me.

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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 12:23:12 PM »
More of a fan of Imperial lagers. The couple IPL that I had were meh! Imperial Bo-pils that is good.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 12:24:41 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 12:49:57 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?

Maybe, or perhaps because some folks brew in conditions more favorable for lager brewing.  Just seems like something worth trying for sure.  It's not like trying to make beer that tastes like a PB&J sandwich or something as rediculous as that. 
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 01:03:06 PM »
I've made a few IPLs in the past, for something fun and different.  But spending twice the amount of time to brew something that, in the end, tastes like an IPA seemed like a waste. As said, I do love a good imperial pils though.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 03:14:13 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?
I'm with Denny on this one.  I not sure I see the point of an IPL when a well-made IPA will do.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 03:29:12 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?
I'm with Denny on this one.  I not sure I see the point of an IPL when a well-made IPA will do.

Because we're homebrewers guys. We like variety and being creative, remember?
What's the point of homebrewing if well-made commercial beer will do?
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 03:36:33 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?
I'm with Denny on this one.  I not sure I see the point of an IPL when a well-made IPA will do.

Because we're homebrewers guys. We like variety and being creative, remember?
What's the point of homebrewing if well-made commercial beer will do?

who said commercial? I'm just playing devils advocate here though. I think Denny hit it right on the head. Because You Can.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 04:36:25 PM »
Chime...

I say go for it. If Pelican can make Cream Ale, that is actually a blonde, but tastes and looks identical to Full Sail Session premium lager... why not?

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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 04:43:58 PM »
Wolverine State brewing makes an IPL called Gulo Gulo. It is hopped like an IPA, but is very clean tasting, and is dangerously drinkable. They mainly brew lagers, so something like an IPL is in their mission, and appeals to the must have hops crowd.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 04:52:06 PM »
I've liked the Sam Adams IPL, one I tried locally at a pub, and the ones I made. I like the idea, I just don't want to use equipment and space at home to make something I could turn out quicker as an IPA.  So kinda like lambics, I love them but would rather somebody else spend the time to make them. But I would love to try some of the IPLs from Jack's Abby in Massachusetts.  I have beer geek friends that live out that way, and they rave about them.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 05:48:33 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?

Pretty much. I've wasted my last two lager brewing seasons chasing the elusive "hoppy lager". In the end I've come to the conclusion that it's simply an IPA or APA brewed with a different yeast strain. Don't get me wrong, the beers were great and I'd probably do it more often if I had the capability to lager year-round, but it's no different than using something like WLP007 or WY1968 instead of Chico. It's simply a different yeast choice and will give a different fermentation character; a very clean one in this case.

FWIW, WY2007 (Budweiser) is a very good choice for this. It is the cleanest yeast I've ever used, but there is still a hint of that apple ester note that plays very well with American hops.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 05:56:04 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?

Pretty much. I've wasted my last two lager brewing seasons chasing the elusive "hoppy lager". In the end I've come to the conclusion that it's simply an IPA or APA brewed with a different yeast strain. Don't get me wrong, the beers were great and I'd probably do it more often if I had the capability to lager year-round, but it's no different than using something like WLP007 or WY1968 instead of Chico. It's simply a different yeast choice and will give a different fermentation character; a very clean one in this case.

FWIW, WY2007 (Budweiser) is a very good choice for this. It is the cleanest yeast I've ever used, but there is still a hint of that apple ester note that plays very well with American hops.
The WLP Mexican lager yeast is the cleanest yeast I have ever used, and it is almost too clean. Guess what strain Wolverine uses?
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