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Belle Saison Stats?
« on: December 01, 2013, 01:20:53 PM »
I am fermenting a Rye Saison right now with Belle Saison yeast.  Did a great job in primary and tasted pretty good as I racked it over into secondary.

I can't find it in BeerSmith and I would like to have the right yeast listed in the recipe.  Does anyone have the specs (Attenuation, Temps, flocculation) so I can create the yeast in beer smith?

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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 01:38:10 PM »
Here's what I used:

Flocculation: Low
Min. Attenuation: 85%
Max. Attenuation 95%
(yes you read that right This is the only yeast I have used that got to a Final Gravity of 1.000)
Min. Temperature 64*
Max. Temperature 80*
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 01:44:50 PM »
Here's what I used:

Flocculation: Low
Min. Attenuation: 85%
Max. Attenuation 95%
(yes you read that right This is the only yeast I have used that got to a Final Gravity of 1.000)
Min. Temperature 64*
Max. Temperature 80*

My attenuation so far is 86%  ;D

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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 02:22:39 PM »
this went down to .97 for me.
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 04:29:10 PM »
Attenuation: 93-97%
Flocculation: Medium-Low
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 08:28:25 PM »
When I racked this over to secondary last week it was down to 1.008 (from 1.060).  I noticed today that there was still some activity in the secondary today.  Can't wait to see where this beer ends up.

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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2014, 09:09:34 AM »
Just finished fermenting my second batch using this yeast.  Went from 1.050 to 1.003.  I am letting cold crash in my basement at 55F for a week before kegging.  This yeast fermented well even at the cellar temp of 55.  I did put a brew belt on after three days to ensure that it finished where I would expect it to.
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2014, 09:49:42 AM »
I've gotten it down to 1.000 as well.
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 08:29:47 AM »
Just finished fermenting my second batch using this yeast.  Went from 1.050 to 1.003.  I am letting cold crash in my basement at 55F for a week before kegging.  This yeast fermented well even at the cellar temp of 55.  I did put a brew belt on after three days to ensure that it finished where I would expect it to.
It seems to have more ester formation at lower temps than I got at higher temps.  The beer turned out very good.  I am pleased with the flavor and attenuation.  Although I will probably still use WLP565 when I have time for a starter.  It's still my favorite saison strain.
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 09:19:18 PM »
Are you guys pitching 2 packs per 5 gallons? I've read this recommended in a few places on the internets and wondered if that was actually necessary or just yeast lab marketing :)

The convenience can't be beat, but for ~$10 ($4.95\packet at my LHBS), I'd rather go to the trouble of a starter with liquid strains I like

I pitched only a single rehydrated packet into a Saison I've got going now and wondering what to expect.

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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 09:32:06 PM »
Are you guys pitching 2 packs per 5 gallons? I've read this recommended in a few places on the internets and wondered if that was actually necessary or just yeast lab marketing :)

The convenience can't be beat, but for ~$10 ($4.95\packet at my LHBS), I'd rather go to the trouble of a starter with liquid strains I like

I pitched only a single rehydrated packet into a Saison I've got going now and wondering what to expect.

i pitched one packet that had traveled un-refrigerated from Philly, to Vermont, and then back to California over the course of a week. it had no problem getting a 1.050 saison down to 1.000ish
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2014, 06:11:30 AM »
Are you guys pitching 2 packs per 5 gallons? I've read this recommended in a few places on the internets and wondered if that was actually necessary or just yeast lab marketing :)

Totally unnecessary.
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2014, 06:16:25 AM »
Are you guys pitching 2 packs per 5 gallons? I've read this recommended in a few places on the internets and wondered if that was actually necessary or just yeast lab marketing :)

The convenience can't be beat, but for ~$10 ($4.95\packet at my LHBS), I'd rather go to the trouble of a starter with liquid strains I like

I pitched only a single rehydrated packet into a Saison I've got going now and wondering what to expect.

i pitched one packet that had traveled un-refrigerated from Philly, to Vermont, and then back to California over the course of a week. it had no problem getting a 1.050 saison down to 1.000ish

+1.  My one packet got down to 1.000 from 1.055ish.
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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2014, 07:02:44 AM »
Excellent, thanks dudes! I hadn't done calculations based on the cell counts listed on llalemand's site, but figured it would be an appropriate pitching rate as per every other dry yeast out there

Hydrometer sample tasted very nice. Looking forward to seeing how this one shapes up!

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Re: Belle Saison Stats?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2014, 08:18:42 AM »
I'm not going to go so far as to recommend to intentionally underpitch, but Belgian & Saison strains are much more sensitive to overpitching compared to other ale strains. I'd be less concerned with needing to pitch an additional pack with the Belle Saison than something like US-05 that I want to ferment really clean. And with US-05, I don't start thinking about using a second pack until the OG gets into the 1.070 range (for a 5-gallon batch).
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