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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2013, 10:50:36 AM »
Because we're homebrewers guys. We like variety and being creative, remember?
What's the point of homebrewing if well-made commercial beer will do?

I think you're missing the point when you bring up commercial beer.  Why should I bother making an IPL when an IPA that I make can have the same properties?  Creativity should have a point, shouldn't it?
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2013, 11:20:45 AM »
If your enjoyment is the journey from point a to point be, I can see enjoying the challenge of making an IPA with lager yeast. If the idea is to get to point b the most efficient way.... then it doesn't make sense.

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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2013, 11:40:10 AM »
If your enjoyment is the journey from point a to point be, I can see enjoying the challenge of making an IPA with lager yeast. If the idea is to get to point b the most efficient way.... then it doesn't make sense.

What if there is no point b and the journey is from point a to point a...pointless?  ;)
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2013, 12:01:28 PM »
I think I see your point. I guess there's so much attention on IPA these days that folks want to turn other styles into them. I've heard of Belgian IPA , now lager IPA. I'm looking forward to IPA cider and mead someday.

Actually, to each his own. I say go for it.

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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2013, 12:20:25 PM »
For me it's a time thing right now.  I love the IPLs I've had, but until I can replace my burned out lager fridge, I'd have my fermentation fridge tied up with a lager (and lagering) for longer than I'd like.  But there should always be the journey and the creativity.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2013, 02:50:04 PM »
Because we're homebrewers guys. We like variety and being creative, remember?
What's the point of homebrewing if well-made commercial beer will do?

I think you're missing the point when you bring up commercial beer.  Why should I bother making an IPL when an IPA that I make can have the same properties?  Creativity should have a point, shouldn't it?
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 03:10:31 PM »
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...

Sure, but that's different.  And maybe one of the reasons it's better to be a homebrewer!  ;)
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 03:49:50 PM »
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...

Sure, but that's different.  And maybe one of the reasons it's better to be a homebrewer!  ;)
I am not so sure about lager yeast vs ale yeast argument.
I am more in opinion that the same yeast under different temperature create different flavors.
I can make quite nice "ale" with "lager" yeast at 70F.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2013, 10:39:46 AM »
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...

Sure, but that's different.  And maybe one of the reasons it's better to be a homebrewer!  ;)
I am not so sure about lager yeast vs ale yeast argument.
I am more in opinion that the same yeast under different temperature create different flavors.
I can make quite nice "ale" with "lager" yeast at 70F.

Agreed.  And what I'm saying is that I don't see the point for using a lager yeast (unless like you it's all you've got) when you can get lagerlike qualities from an ale yeast.
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Re: India Pale Lagers
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2013, 06:30:59 PM »
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...

Sure, but that's different.  And maybe one of the reasons it's better to be a homebrewer!  ;)
I am not so sure about lager yeast vs ale yeast argument.
I am more in opinion that the same yeast under different temperature create different flavors.
I can make quite nice "ale" with "lager" yeast at 70F.

Agreed.  And what I'm saying is that I don't see the point for using a lager yeast (unless like you it's all you've got) when you can get lagerlike qualities from an ale yeast.
Now we are talking.

My usual lager fermentation time is 10 days.
I made Alt with my yeast and fermented at 60F in 6 days.
If I ferment at ale temp I will be done in 4 days.

When we talk about taste.
Warmer you ferment more fruity esters it gets.
Still pretty clean thou.

I can make almost any beer with this yeast.

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