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Dishwashing detergent
« on: December 03, 2013, 07:54:36 AM »
We've been buying boxes of the little Cascade packs with Dawn in them from Costco.  I'm thinking that something there is minimizing the head on my beers.  I say that because the second pour always has a bigger head holds the head longer.

So what works well as a general dishwashing detergent that plays well with beer?
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2013, 07:59:31 AM »
I think drying agents are a problem and cascade uses them to keep glasses from spotting. Of course, spots are not good either. Maybe an oxyclean rinse?

Have you tried putting the second pour in a new glass? Just making sure it's the detergent and not beer that's been sitting in the line.
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2013, 08:11:51 AM »
i always handwash (super hot water and this stuff http://www.amazon.com/Mrs-Meyers-Clean-Day-Lavender/dp/B0000UTUVU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1386083429&sr=8-7&keywords=meyer+dish+soap) then airdry on a rack.

never had any luck with anything in the dishwasher.  >:(
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2013, 08:17:31 AM »
We use these finish powerball tabs:  http://www.amazon.com/Finish-Powerball-Dishwasher-Detergent-60-Count/dp/B002ODE412

My beers, homebrew and commercial, seem to have ample amount of head when poured into glasses cleaned with these tabs.

If you are using the same glass on the second pour, then anything lacing remaining on the side of the glass will cause more head then if the glass were clean. 
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2013, 08:30:08 AM »
I use regular Cascade powder, also available at Costco.  I haven't noticed any head suppression with the powder but I'll pay more careful attention from now on.
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2013, 08:33:29 AM »
I use those Finish power balls.  Used to be called Electrasol, I believe.

They don't seem to impact head formation or retention.  Maybe sometimes, but I don't usually rinse out glasses before pouring beer and don't seem to have a problem.
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2013, 08:48:57 AM »
We use these finish powerball tabs:  http://www.amazon.com/Finish-Powerball-Dishwasher-Detergent-60-Count/dp/B002ODE412
If you are using the same glass on the second pour, then anything lacing remaining on the side of the glass will cause more head then if the glass were clean.

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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2013, 09:38:42 AM »
I use those Cascade ones as well and I don't seem to have head retention issues.  I do recall the last time I purchased them that there were several variants on them: regular ones, "Complete", "Platinum", whatever.  I go with whatever the cheapest ones are because I'm worried the other ones have more stuff in them that might kill head retention (and the ones I'm using do a sufficient job of cleaning the dishes).

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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2013, 09:49:27 AM »
I use those Finish power balls.  Used to be called Electrasol, I believe.

They don't seem to impact head formation or retention.  Maybe sometimes, but I don't usually rinse out glasses before pouring beer and don't seem to have a problem.

Maybe it's my water rather than (or in combination with) the detergent, but I find that it leaves enough of a residue to affect the taste of my beers. It has gotten better since i started using LemiShine along with the Finish, but still enough to be distracting.

My beer glasses are hand wash only. I use Palmolive and a bottle brush, then rinse in hot water until there's no suds or smell. Then I rinse it a couple more times for good measure and air dry.
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2013, 11:02:38 AM »
We've been buying boxes of the little Cascade packs with Dawn in them from Costco.  I'm thinking that something there is minimizing the head on my beers.  I say that because the second pour always has a bigger head holds the head longer.

So what works well as a general dishwashing detergent that plays well with beer?
It might be that it is just that the glass is wet from the last beer.  Try a quick rinse with water right before filling.  For science, you'll need to rinse one and let it dry, then rinse another and fill both.  Compare the head.  Then drink both.  For science.
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 11:25:37 AM »
We've been buying boxes of the little Cascade packs with Dawn in them from Costco.  I'm thinking that something there is minimizing the head on my beers.  I say that because the second pour always has a bigger head holds the head longer.

So what works well as a general dishwashing detergent that plays well with beer?
It might be that it is just that the glass is wet from the last beer.  Try a quick rinse with water right before filling.  For science, you'll need to rinse one and let it dry, then rinse another and fill both.  Compare the head.  Then drink both.  For science.

Well OK.  For science.
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2013, 11:54:56 AM »
Something that works well if you're experiencing glassware problems is a salt scrub.  Wet the inside of the glass and pour salt over all the surfaces.  Scrub with a paper towel.  Works great!
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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2013, 12:04:21 PM »
Something that works well if you're experiencing glassware problems is a salt scrub.  Wet the inside of the glass and pour salt over all the surfaces.  Scrub with a paper towel.  Works great!

I used to use salt to clean flower vases in college.  ::)

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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 12:38:36 PM »
Something that works well if you're experiencing glassware problems is a salt scrub.  Wet the inside of the glass and pour salt over all the surfaces.  Scrub with a paper towel.  Works great!

I used to use salt to clean flower vases in college.  ::)

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Re: Dishwashing detergent
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2013, 12:55:37 PM »
Something that works well if you're experiencing glassware problems is a salt scrub.  Wet the inside of the glass and pour salt over all the surfaces.  Scrub with a paper towel.  Works great!

I used to use salt to clean flower vases in college.  ::)

it's amazing how dirty dank those flower vases got back in college isn't it?

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