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Re: NHC
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 10:16:57 AM »
The rumor I heard was if you volunteered last year you get two slots and the rest is up for lottery.  This is only what I heard and may not have a basis in reality. 

It will sure be interesting to see how many people actually submit into the lottery, nobody has a clue how many people/entries there could be.

Edit: I'm always amazed at the number of people I hear each year that enter NHC as their 1st (and sometimes only) competition.  You can often get as good or better feedback from a smaller competition for a lot less money
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Re: NHC
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 10:24:48 AM »
Jim, past Ninkasi winners have defended. Curt Hausam won in 2002-3. Gordon Stong won 2008-9-10.
Jamil Zainascheff and Joe Formanek have 2 wins each, but not back to back.

I talked to Joe for a while last NHC, and we both agree it if harder to medal each year. So much good information and ingredients now, some are making award winning beer in short order.
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2013, 10:38:13 AM »
I guess I would use the word repeat. To me defend implies you are no longer a Ninkasi winner if you don't successfully defend. Its all good, never mind. Not important

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 11:35:03 AM »
I guess I would use the word repeat. To me defend implies you are no longer a Ninkasi winner if you don't successfully defend. Its all good, never mind. Not important

There was an NHC before there was a Ninkasi award. The big award then was Homebrewer of the year. That only takes on entry!
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2013, 02:36:53 PM »
Listening to Mr Gordon on Basic Brewing today. He said that during his Ninkasi rein he was submitting 30-40 beers. Now that there are going to be limits I suspect it will be very difficult to three-peat. Even if one is a stellar brew god, you won't be able to account for mishandling or judging mistakes. The field will be much more level it seems. I still think that volunteers and medalists should forego the lottery. But it will be what it will be, huh?

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2013, 07:01:27 AM »
I think this still is, and should be, the premier competition in the nation. It's the biggest and that's great, but it should also have the best brewers.  Yes, we want to be as inclusive as possible, but if someone who has proved themselves as one of the best brewers in the nation gets left out, something is wrong IMO.  The competition loses some legitimacy, but again, that's just my opinion.

I get what Jim is saying but it's just a mediocre word choice on my part.  I'd give everyone who has ever won one of those 4 awards entry spots, if they want them, for life.  This is the Masters and they should always be invited back...
The number would vary - I wouldn't increase limits - if everyone gets no more than 5 spots then even dbarber shouldn't get more than that. 

one-year guaranteed entries for volunteers from the previous year
lifetime guaranteed entries for winners of the 4 major awards.
maybe a single, one-year guaranteed entry for each medal winner?  I dunno. 

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2013, 07:49:11 AM »
So when is this decision going to be made?

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2013, 09:08:48 AM »
... This is the Masters...

And this is the challenge, because there's varying opinions about that.

To me, it's not. I think there should protection around the concept of "any given sunday" - to borrow a football reference.

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2013, 09:22:21 AM »
Using the comparison to golf, it's not the masters it's the US Open. Unless you want to consider round one as the open and round two as the masters.

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Re: NHC
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2013, 09:23:58 AM »
... This is the Masters...

And this is the challenge, because there's varying opinions about that.

To me, it's not. I think there should protection around the concept of "any given sunday" - to borrow a football reference.

The trick is finding a way to balance those two poles.
That and they don't give out green jackets to the winner. :)
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Re: NHC
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2013, 10:03:14 AM »
I didn't expect everyone to agree with me, and i'm sure you're sick of hearing me spout off, so I'll drop that part. 


...but it sure would be nice to know when we're going to find out what the rules are.

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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2013, 10:14:27 AM »
dawg, what I like about your views is the respect for the prestige of winning.

I think the the lottery will be sometime next month then they announce the entry limits.

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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2013, 10:53:34 AM »
I didn't expect everyone to agree with me, and i'm sure you're sick of hearing me spout off, so I'll drop that part. 


...but it sure would be nice to know when we're going to find out what the rules are.

Michael, I agree with most of your comments.  Hopefully they are reading them too.

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Re: NHC
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2013, 07:18:20 AM »
... This is the Masters...

And this is the challenge, because there's varying opinions about that.

To me, it's not. I think there should protection around the concept of "any given sunday" - to borrow a football reference.

The trick is finding a way to balance those two poles.
That and they don't give out green jackets to the winner. :)

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2013, 01:51:55 PM »
Using the comparison to golf, it's not the masters it's the US Open. Unless you want to consider round one as the open and round two as the masters.
Even in the US Open you have to qualify still...
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