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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2013, 11:02:50 AM »
I'm one of those.  No dry hops, no secondary.  But if I plan to dry hop, I'll go 3-4 weeks in primary, then rack to secondary and dry hop.  I prefer the results from doing it that way.

Denny I'm somewhat surprised by how long you leave your beer in the primary.  I understand that there isn't a problem in doing it, but I find myself wondering if there is a benefit (other than ensuring FG).

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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 11:18:23 AM »
I have found benefits, such as no more acetaldehyde problem. To my understanding, hitting FG doesn't mean the yeast is done doing its job. I've also found that it depends on how big the beer is and the temp. My personal method is finding FG and no off flavors, not just FG. For me, generally that's 3-5 weeks

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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 11:35:36 AM »
Denny I'm somewhat surprised by how long you leave your beer in the primary.  I understand that there isn't a problem in doing it, but I find myself wondering if there is a benefit (other than ensuring FG).

Steve, laziness is the main reason I think.  It all kinda depends on when I get around to taking a gravity reading or feel like I have time to deal with it if a reading shows me it's done.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 11:37:34 AM »
I too may go 3-4 weeks in primary, no secondary except for fruit, dry hop in keg.  Less transfer, less chance for problems.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2013, 12:09:47 PM »
The only time I rack to secondary is if I'm splitting a batch, or adding bugs after primary. Otherwise everything stays in the primary for at least 2 weeks (I've gone as long as a couple of months for big beers - haven't picked up any autolysis flavors yet). I dry hop, add fruit/spices, whatever. I just haven't seen a need for it. I don't have a lot of free time, so I go for the simplest method that makes good beer.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2013, 02:00:00 PM »
Denny I'm somewhat surprised by how long you leave your beer in the primary.  I understand that there isn't a problem in doing it, but I find myself wondering if there is a benefit (other than ensuring FG).

Steve, laziness is the main reason I think.  It all kinda depends on when I get around to taking a gravity reading or feel like I have time to deal with it if a reading shows me it's done.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2013, 03:23:45 PM »
I rarely keg before for weeks and never use a secondary.  Most of my beers are bigger beers, and they seem to need longer to finish.  Smaller beers may get kegged at three weeks, but I don't pay that much attention.

I used to use secondaries a lot, but often it was to free up a larger fermenter by transferring a beer to a 5 gallon carboy so I could have more batches going.  I was brewing more frequently at that time.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2013, 09:57:56 PM »
I rack to keg for smallish beers after 2-3 weeks (kegging), but for lagers and bigger beers, I primary for a month. For Belgians (especially oaked Flanders or other similar beers that are well served for aging) I will age in secondary, including oak barrels.

You can't take the secondary out of all processes, of course.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2013, 10:28:44 PM »
If you can transfer to an o2 free secondary (like a corny keg or bright tank) then it's great or, as Tom says, for fruit or other actual secondary fermentation.

+1.  I use one for these reasons too, and I use a purged secondary for dry hopping now as well.  Otherwise it isn't necessary.

+1 +1 This is exactly what I do.....  Oxygenation is my fear on some of my bigger hoppier beers.  So into a co2 purged keg it is.....
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2013, 01:52:43 PM »
I only use a secondary for extended aging, using fruit, or dry hopping.  I find dry hopping in the primary the yeast absorb too many of the hop oils...
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2013, 03:37:33 PM »
My recollection of using a secondary when I first started homebrewing in the mid-90's was so the beer was not on the yeast for an extended period of time and inviting autolysis.  With the quality of the yeast now at our disposal, this is not really an issue.  So I stopped using a secondary several years ago and have not looked back.  I'll leave a lager or big beer on the cake for 6-8 weeks. 

However I can understand why one would use a secondary for fruit, oak aging or major dry hopping. 

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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2014, 09:59:55 PM »
Just came across this topic. This is the best advice to date for me. This whole time I have been brewing ( 1 1/2 years), I have been transferring to a secondary for no damn good reason. I will probably on transfer now if I am dry hopping or finishing on fruit. I have a great feeling about future batches. Can't wait to see how my 10 gallon American Wheat will turn out.

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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2014, 04:02:24 AM »
When I dry hop, I use a secondary. I also harvest the yeast, so it's good to get it before there's 6 oz of hops in with it. I also use a secondary fir fruit additions.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2014, 07:57:31 AM »
I dont bother with a secondary either. If dry hopping, i like to wait till fermentation slows (3-4 days) then toss the hops in the primary. The light fermentation activity helps carry away the O2 in the hops. After dryhopping i may transfer to another carboy for a day or so before kegging to make sure i dont pick up any hops. Nothing more frustrating than sucking up a hop leaf clogging the pin lock.
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Re: Secondary Poll
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2014, 08:02:06 AM »
When I dry hop, I use a secondary. I also harvest the yeast, so it's good to get it before there's 6 oz of hops in with it. I also use a secondary fir fruit additions.

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