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Offline duboman

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Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« on: December 18, 2013, 08:18:15 AM »
To any BJCP judges out there: I brew a true all malt 10% Hard Root Beer and am wondering if it could be submitted in a BJCP sanctioned comp under category 23. There is nothing in it that isn't an ingredient of beer except for the Gnome Extract I use for flavoring and all the ABV is derived from fermented malt.
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 09:18:28 AM »
Heck yeah.  I've though about it before but never executed.  I have made a homemade rootbeer with roots and mint and stuff in it.  Pretty good, a little different than your standard rootbeer.
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 09:21:48 AM »
I don't see why not. Hell, I'd like to try it!
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 12:01:49 PM »
I called it first Amanda.

Since I generally get relegated to specialty or veggie/herb anyway, it'd likely be in my flight anyway.
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 01:08:06 PM »
1 - Is it good? I assume yes if you are looking to enter into a comp

2 - Recipe?

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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 01:23:41 PM »
I called it first Amanda.

Since I generally get relegated to specialty or veggie/herb anyway, it'd likely be in my flight anyway.

Haha. Okay, fine. You win.  ;D

You can enter it in our club's competition here after January 10th: http://www.kcbiermeisters.org/comp/ I'd love to try it.
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Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 04:15:13 PM »
You all are too funny!

Yes, it is actually great! As for entering in your comp I would love to but am not sure how it will travel and keep. It needs to stay cold so no secondary fermentation occurs unless someone can tell me how to kill off the yeast.

Here's the recipe though: It's a 3 gallon batch size and I keg it in a 3 gallon corny under 30psi

Total Grain Weight: 8 lbs 8.6 oz   Total Hops: 0.00 oz oz.
---MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------

Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
        Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)           Grain         1        75.0 %       
           De-Bittered Black Malt (Dingemans) (550. Grain         2        3.0 %         
              Carafa I (337.0 SRM)            Grain         3        2.0 %         
              Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM)   Grain         4        2.0 %         


Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In           Add 2.88 gal of water at 165.3 F        156.0 F       60 min 
Batch sparge to achieve 5.25 gallons pre-boil volume. Post boil volume 3 gallons  (YMMV)     

Post fermentation Notes:
Cold crash 3 days
Make simple syrup of corn sugar into 5 cups water, add to keg
boil malto-dextrine into 2 cups water, add to keg
Boil lactose into 1 cup water, add to keg
Add Gnome Root Beer Extract
Rack beer to keg and carb to 30 psi, serve. Note: you will need 25' of 3/16 bev line under this pressure.

OG: 1.090
FG: 1.010

Pours dark like root beer with a nice dense, thin tan head and tastes like a nice creamy root beer! If anyone decides to try this I would be thrilled to hear your thoughts.

If someone can tell me what I could add to the keg to prevent further fermentation so I could bottle without worries I would greatly appreciate it!

Edit note: after reviewing and considering the amount of work I put into getting this recipe exact I edited the recipe to remove the fine details but will certainly field questions. I want to see how it does in a comp first.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 11:22:51 PM by duboman »
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 04:19:06 PM »
Next time hit with campden tablets before kegging.

How does Guinness pasteurize their beer.

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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 04:30:24 PM »
I do stove top pasteurization to keep these kinds of beers and ciders.
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 04:32:12 PM »

Next time hit with campden tablets before kegging.

How does Guinness pasteurize their beer.

Camp den tablets post fermentation, before racking or crashing? How many for 3 gallons?
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 04:33:20 PM »

I do stove top pasteurization to keep these kinds of beers and ciders.
meaning you bring it to a boil for a few minutes? Then crash and rack?
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 05:00:57 PM »

Next time hit with campden tablets before kegging.

How does Guinness pasteurize their beer.

Camp den tablets post fermentation, before racking or crashing? How many for 3 gallons?

The amount I have always seen is 1 tablet for 20 gallons or must or water. I have used it for unpasteurized cider and I used about 1/2 tablet to 5 gallons because I was lazy.

Maybe gelatin, along with a long cold condition would work too. Or you could always filter.

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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 06:01:04 PM »

I do stove top pasteurization to keep these kinds of beers and ciders.
meaning you bring it to a boil for a few minutes? Then crash and rack?
Put bottles in tap water, bring slowly up to 180-190, hold for 20 minutes. Pull bottles out. Easy peasy!
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Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2013, 06:14:13 PM »

I do stove top pasteurization to keep these kinds of beers and ciders.
meaning you bring it to a boil for a few minutes? Then crash and rack?
Put bottles in tap water, bring slowly up to 180-190, hold for 20 minutes. Pull bottles out. Easy peasy!
Thanks Amanda! I'll assume I can bottle off the keg and then do this without affecting the carbonation, correct?

Gary
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Re: Hard Root Beer in a comp?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 08:05:54 PM »

I do stove top pasteurization to keep these kinds of beers and ciders.
meaning you bring it to a boil for a few minutes? Then crash and rack?
Put bottles in tap water, bring slowly up to 180-190, hold for 20 minutes. Pull bottles out. Easy peasy!
Thanks Amanda! I'll assume I can bottle off the keg and then do this without affecting the carbonation, correct?

Gary

I would assume so (if you don't loose the cap's seal), but I have only done it with bottle conditioned sours for stability's sake and a bottle conditioned carbonated cider to see if it'd work.
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