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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2014, 07:11:25 PM »
Posting information online costs almost nothing to do.  I just don't care to know, even if it was posted online.

AHA - keep up the good work and realize that discussion is just that - not an indictment in any way.  I have few memberships that give me so much for so little.

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2014, 07:38:47 PM »
And I am one cheap SOB - I have references on that!
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2014, 08:57:19 AM »
I just found this, which has plenty of detail about what the AHA and governing committee are working on that doesn't benefit members directly. Far more information than most people would want.
 
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0001/6518/AHAGC_subcom_report_2013.pdf
 
No financials, but it does mention that the conference has been profitable since 2007. If someone were questioning that though, I'd have two points. 1- As mentioned before, it should be somewhat profitable or it would die. It's impossible to run a perfectly break even conference and AHA needs to err on the black side. 2- I'm sure registrations alone do not make it profitable. Lots of companies pay (good money I'm sure) to sponsor the conference.
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2014, 09:12:58 AM »
No financials, but it does mention that the conference has been profitable since 2007. If someone were questioning that though, I'd have two points. 1- As mentioned before, it should be somewhat profitable or it would die. It's impossible to run a perfectly break even conference and AHA needs to err on the black side. 2- I'm sure registrations alone do not make it profitable. Lots of companies pay (good money I'm sure) to sponsor the conference.

I certainly hope no one is out there suggesting that the AHA or any similar organization should not operate in the black.   Being a "not-for-profit" does not mean that they do not have a need to follow basic business principles and seek to remain a going concern.  I'd be concerned about paying dues to an organization that is failing not to one that is growing successfully and achieving results (such as legalization bills) as the AHA is doing.
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2014, 09:20:13 AM »
No financials, but it does mention that the conference has been profitable since 2007. If someone were questioning that though, I'd have two points. 1- As mentioned before, it should be somewhat profitable or it would die. It's impossible to run a perfectly break even conference and AHA needs to err on the black side. 2- I'm sure registrations alone do not make it profitable. Lots of companies pay (good money I'm sure) to sponsor the conference.

I certainly hope no one is out there suggesting that the AHA or any similar organization should not operate in the black.   Being a "not-for-profit" does not mean that they do not have a need to follow basic business principles and seek to remain a going concern.  I'd be concerned about paying dues to an organization that is failing not to one that is growing successfully and achieving results (such as legalization bills) as the AHA is doing.
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2014, 11:19:50 AM »
I would like to see the AHA financials. Not because I think anything is wrong but I think it is important for the membership to know where our money goes.

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2014, 04:52:22 AM »
An annual financial report should be available. Having said that, I'm not interested in reading it.

Regarding NHC being profitable. I'm glad it is. If I were a member who had never been to NHC, and part of my membership was going to keep NHC going, I'd eventually be reluctant to keep paying. But as it is, the opposite seems to be true. People who go to NHC seem to be subsidizing my membership.

By the way, I will get to NHC eventually. Hopefully next year.

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2014, 12:13:45 PM »
I don't see anything wrong with providing a very easy to find list of accomplishments for the year. It would actually be beneficial. It's common practice for non-profits. It should be right off the main landing page.

With that being said, I value my membership. That doesn't mean we can't do a better job communicating what our organization has done besides general mission statements.

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2014, 04:45:35 AM »
An annual financial report should be available. Having said that, I'm not interested in reading it.

Regarding NHC being profitable. I'm glad it is. If I were a member who had never been to NHC, and part of my membership was going to keep NHC going, I'd eventually be reluctant to keep paying. But as it is, the opposite seems to be true. People who go to NHC seem to be subsidizing my membership.

By the way, I will get to NHC eventually. Hopefully next year.

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2014, 07:27:16 AM »
I work for a non profit that underwent some major changes a few years back. Angry people left and happy people stayed and the institution is much stronger and stable now. That's not to say that the AHA couldn't be improved by providing better or more info
. Probably just because that's almost always the healthiest thing for an organization to do.
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2014, 09:54:56 AM »

BTW this thread is a good example of people on this site disagreeing in a constructive way IMO.

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2014, 10:56:39 AM »
Wow... I had no idea things go so contentious in the 90s.

http://hbd.org/hbd/archive/2753.html#2753-15
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2014, 11:44:09 AM »
Wow... I had no idea things go so contentious in the 90s.

http://hbd.org/hbd/archive/2753.html#2753-15

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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2014, 12:37:35 PM »
Wow... I had no idea things go so contentious in the 90s.

http://hbd.org/hbd/archive/2753.html#2753-15

That was a blast from the past.
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Re: AHA Financials
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2014, 01:52:57 PM »
Yeah, whenever we do our history retrospective and our future planning I always make sure to point out that the AHA wasn't always beloved and did a lot of things that pissed people off.
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