Ken, I think it's the first beer I have ever poured in that glass. I've been with my SWMBO for over 5 years now and living with her for over 4. I think the glass was her x's. But it fit the bill for a bomber of something I wanted to see the clarity on. I like it a lot, but hate "the resort." Thanks again for the recipes, the tweaked version with a blend of Avangard and Weyermann Pilsner 8s by far my favorite and cleared up a heckuva lot better. Will be enjoying 3.5 gallons of each for the next month or 2 after I get back from this trip. Back to back: flew into LA, drove the coast to San Francisco, flew back to indiana, had 2 days of yardwork, then back into the car to drive the oldest out to Gunnison, CO. Then have to drive home next weekend. My feet and @$$ are killing me!