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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2014, 02:02:11 PM »
We need some trends. But not laws, just trends. 1. Lower abv and lower IBU more available. 2. Smaller glasses at smaller prices.

Hmm, my biggest beer is 1.050 and bitterest is under 50 IBU. And I have some 8 oz disposable cups... trend started!

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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2014, 02:09:45 PM »
Thought of another thing that bugs me alittle... I don't like when breweries or craft beer bars don't sell half pints.  I really do enjoy a half pint much more than a pint typically.  Mainly because I had have more variety.

Same here. I like to sample several more than have a huge quantity of any one, regardless of how good.

I agree, but while breweries want you to drink responsibly, most want your money more.  If they can squeeze an extra $3-$4 out of you (think 4 - 8oz pours in a sitting versus 3 pints cause you're probably likely to stop at 4 tastes but not at 2) then thats more revenue and profit. 

remember guys, its a business.  people are paying ridiculous premiums for high gravity.  it takes about the same amount of time to brew a mild as it does a 9% IIPA.  demand is for high gravity and high gravity equals higher profit and better labor utilization. 
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2014, 02:15:57 PM »
...while breweries want you to drink responsibly, most want your money more.  If they can squeeze an extra $3-$4 out of you (think 4 - 8oz pours in a sitting versus 3 pints cause you're probably likely to stop at 4 tastes but not at 2) then thats more revenue and profit. 

remember guys, its a business.  people are paying ridiculous premiums for high gravity.  it takes about the same amount of time to brew a mild as it does a 9% IIPA.  demand is for high gravity and high gravity equals higher profit and better labor utilization.

I totally agree on all points made. 
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« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2014, 02:26:56 PM »
I really liked Burlington, VT. Half pints for about half price everywhere. I hear Greg Noonan was really into promoting responsible drinking and probably influenced that.

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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2014, 02:59:36 PM »
Thought of another thing that bugs me alittle... I don't like when breweries or craft beer bars don't sell half pints.  I really do enjoy a half pint much more than a pint typically.  Mainly because I had have more variety.

Proud to say sell Pints and Half Pints and we don't sell high gravity beers (over 8%) in full pints - halves only. Call me responsible. The last thing I want on my conscience to be responsible for a drunk driving death.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2014, 03:06:49 PM »
we don't sell high gravity beers (over 8%) in full pints - halves only.

This I have no problem with.  But it should be disclosed when you order.  I'm often a little frosty when I order a beer, it's pricey, and it comes in a tiny snifter.

If you tell me upfront, that's OK.  Some places list in on the menu, others do not.  I've had the server tell me, too, but sometimes it's a total surprise.  Well, not really a surprise as I've come to expect it.  But it should be disclosed.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2014, 04:24:32 PM »
we don't sell high gravity beers (over 8%) in full pints - halves only.

This I have no problem with.  But it should be disclosed when you order.  I'm often a little frosty when I order a beer, it's pricey, and it comes in a tiny snifter.

If you tell me upfront, that's OK.  Some places list in on the menu, others do not.  I've had the server tell me, too, but sometimes it's a total surprise.  Well, not really a surprise as I've come to expect it.  But it should be disclosed.

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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2014, 05:52:40 PM »
I really liked Burlington, VT. Half pints for about half price everywhere. I hear Greg Noonan was really into promoting responsible drinking and probably influenced that.

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I live in the Burlington area have gotten used to being able to order half pints or half beers (half of the serving size whether that is 16, 12, or 8oz).  When I travel I always seek out a good beer bar and I have not found one yet where I could get a half serving outside VT  >:(

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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2014, 07:26:08 PM »
Thought of another thing that bugs me alittle... I don't like when breweries or craft beer bars don't sell half pints.  I really do enjoy a half pint much more than a pint typically.  Mainly because I had have more variety.

Same here. I like to sample several more than have a huge quantity of any one, regardless of how good.

I agree, but while breweries want you to drink responsibly, most want your money more.  If they can squeeze an extra $3-$4 out of you (think 4 - 8oz pours in a sitting versus 3 pints cause you're probably likely to stop at 4 tastes but not at 2) then thats more revenue and profit. 

remember guys, its a business.  people are paying ridiculous premiums for high gravity.  it takes about the same amount of time to brew a mild as it does a 9% IIPA.  demand is for high gravity and high gravity equals higher profit and better labor utilization. 


You're totally right, no arguments. Most nights I go out for pints, but sometimes it's nice to have the option for halves.  No misconceptions about profit motives ever, though.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2014, 07:34:28 PM »
I acquired a half-pint nonic glass once along the way. It was perhaps a ladies' glass but I could go all day drinking out of that cup. It got broken. :(

Went to a brew pub last weekend and it had prices and ABV on the board and menu. Would have preferred a half pint option.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2014, 07:46:59 PM »
Thought of another thing that bugs me alittle... I don't like when breweries or craft beer bars don't sell half pints.  I really do enjoy a half pint much more than a pint typically.  Mainly because I had have more variety.
Me and my girlfriend were talking about this just last night. It's a great idea. Russian River does it, and that's super awesome. Some people, like her, have a lower tolerance and don't want a full pint all the time. And for those of us that do have a higher tolerance, it's nice too to experience different kinds without having to get a flight. 8 ounces of beer is about the right amount to get a full experience on a beer, I think. Flights don't give you enough for that experience.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2014, 07:50:20 PM »
Seems to me any place I've ever requested a glass rather than a pint, that's what I was served and appropriately charged whether the size/price option was posted or not.
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« Reply #72 on: February 14, 2014, 07:59:03 PM »
I don't see how half pints would cut into profits. I fully to expect to pay a little over 1/2 the price of a full pint of beer when I get a half pint.  I realize there are extra glasses to be cleaned and fills for the bartenders to pour. I really don't mind paying a little more per oz. Some places get downright offended if you ask for a half pint though.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2014, 08:02:00 PM »
I don't see how half pints would cut into profits. I fully to expect to pay a little over 1/2 the price of a full pint of beer when I get a half pint.  I realize there are extra glasses to be cleaned and fills for the bartenders to pour. I really don't mind paying a little more per oz. Some places get downright offended if you ask for a half pint though.
Yes they do. I had a manager at a local brewery get pissed at me because I asked for a half fill on my mug, for which I am a mug club member of their brewery. I couldn't believe it...why is it such a big deal? It turned me off a bit and I don't go to the brewery so much anymore. It's sad. He was being a dick about it.
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Re: Craft Beer and Alcoholism
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2014, 08:12:31 PM »
we don't sell high gravity beers (over 8%) in full pints - halves only.

This I have no problem with.  But it should be disclosed when you order.  I'm often a little frosty when I order a beer, it's pricey, and it comes in a tiny snifter.

If you tell me upfront, that's OK.  Some places list in on the menu, others do not.  I've had the server tell me, too, but sometimes it's a total surprise.  Well, not really a surprise as I've come to expect it.  But it should be disclosed.

Well, if you can't read a board that's a "you" problem.

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If it's on the board that would seem to address my point about disclosing the serving size. Not all places do so.
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