[skyler]

Hi guys, I am looking into this Sacchra 50 grain. I have done some serious digging and I just haven't been able to find enough info to build a recipe with. Supposedly the grain behaves in between a Munich malt and a Crystal malt. It's color is 50L and Great Western claims that it "doesn't get in the way of the hops" and recommends it for a "Red IPA." The tricky thing is that it takes 12-15% to actually make a beer red. If this were a regular crystal malt, that would be an insane amount to add to an IPA. Has anyone brewed anything with just Sacchra 50 and base malt? What percentage should I use?

I was thinking either I'd go 12% in a ~1.066 malt bill with just domestic pale ale malt and sacchra 50 or I'd use ~6% and maybe ~2% carafa/blackprinz for color.

[HoosierBrew]

Denny has - hopefully he'll weigh in. I'm wanting to try it, too. Sounds like maybe a better, or at least different, alternative to Red X which I find over the top malty for some styles.

[denny]

It's a lot different than Red X.  Much drier.

[HoosierBrew]

It's a lot different than Red X.  Much drier.

Thanks for the info, Denny. Now I really need to use it.

[denny]

It's a lot different than Red X.  Much drier.

Thanks for the info, Denny. Now I really need to use it.

It's kinda like a cross between C60 and Vienna.

[HoosierBrew]

It's a lot different than Red X.  Much drier.

Thanks for the info, Denny. Now I really need to use it.

It's kinda like a cross between C60 and Vienna.

I could use that in several beers. Sounds great.

[skyler]

Denny, would you use the same amount of Sacchra 50 as you would Crystal, or could you realistically use 12-15% without producing a cloying caramel bomb? How have you used it?

[denny]

Denny, would you use the same amount of Sacchra 50 as you would Crystal, or could you realistically use 12-15% without producing a cloying caramel bomb? How have you used it?

Consaidering I normally use anywhere from 10-20% crysatl, I'd say yes.  I really don,t get much if an caramel/sweetness from it.  AAMOF! I've been thinking I should try using it in addition to crystal rather than as a replacement.

[skyler]

Ok, my plan is to go 85% pale ale malt (maybe a blend of 2-row and golden promise), 15% Sacchra 50, and an Amarillo/Simcoe hop bill (bittered with HopShot). I'm thinking ~1.070 and about 100 paper IBUs.