Membership questions? Log in issues? Email info@brewersassociation.org

Author Topic: Red X malt (Best Malz)  (Read 29835 times)

Offline hopfenundmalz

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 10686
  • Milford, MI
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2014, 12:37:26 pm »
A DP over 200 for a Continental malt? I would think that maybe that is the WK index not degrees Lintner. 6 row is in the 160-180 degrees Lintner range.
Oops, you are right, my bad.  The pils is 250 WK/74 Lintner.
I found out the Red X is 225 WK/68 Lintner.  I think I'm going to go with the Rye Malt anyway since my LHBS has both.

68 Lintner is still fine for most grists. Sometimes you see MO in the 65 range.
Jeff Rankert
AHA Lifetime Member
BJCP National
Ann Arbor Brewers Guild
Home-brewing, not just a hobby, it is a lifestyle!

Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2014, 05:31:17 am »
Here's an email from Best to my homebrewer friend Jeff who is trying to reach a crimson red color. Pretty interesting.
 
Dear Jeff,
 
Thank you for your Email. First of all a few explanations about the Red X:
 
We developed this malt type to use it with 100% of the malt bill and to get then a red beer. The idea was from the beginning to create a “ready to use” malt to brew beer with a rich red (reddish) colour and a very smooth malty taste. We achieved the realisation of this idea with the successful Red X malt. So you should get the best results (red colour and an optimal taste) if you use 100 % Red X in the malt bill, an extract content of 12,5% Plato (ready boiled wort) and a pH of 4,2-4,5 in the ready beer. If you aim a lower extract content than 12,5% you should use some BEST Melanoidin malt to get the beer a bit darker, if you aim a higher extract content than 12,5% you should adjust with some BEST Pilsen malt (straight proportional ratio). Anyway the ready beer should be as clear as possible. Any remaining turbidity or cloudity is a disadvantage for red colour.
 
My concrete questions are:
 
1.)    What does the sign # in the malt bill mean?
2.)    What was the plato of the ready wort?
3.)    Could you send me a picture of the beer?
 
I am very sure we can solve the issue together and reach your aim of a really red beer, 
 
Kind regards from Heidelberg
Thomas
 

 

Offline erockrph

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7793
  • Chepachet, RI
    • The Hop WHisperer
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2014, 07:12:36 am »
In other words, you get the most redness at about 1.050 worth of Red X. Very helpful info. Thanks for sharing!
Eric B.

Finally got around to starting a homebrewing blog: The Hop Whisperer

Offline klickitat jim

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8604
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2014, 07:35:36 am »
Cool stuff. But now I want a Heidelberg,  the beer of my youth.

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2014, 09:58:51 am »
Great info, thanks Keith. I really want to use it soon.
Jon H.

Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2014, 06:13:02 am »
I'm planning on trying this next week. Just not sure if I want to go with a lager yeast and Hallertauer Hersbrucker or an ale yeast with American "C" hops. What do y'all think?

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2014, 06:18:52 am »
I think the lager with the milder Hersbrucker would let you eval the malt a little better, for sure. But the other sounds great. I'd thought of something mild like an Irish red-type ale to get a sense of the malt first, and then a red IPA type beer. Sounds good.
Jon H.

Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2014, 07:05:15 am »
I think the lager with the milder Hersbrucker would let you eval the malt a little better, for sure. But the other sounds great. I'd thought of something mild like an Irish red-type ale to get a sense of the malt first, and then a red IPA type beer. Sounds good.

Yeah, your probably right. I have a 55 lb sack of it though. Might just do both!

Offline beersk

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 3721
  • In the night!
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2014, 08:31:27 am »
In other words, you get the most redness at about 1.050 worth of Red X. Very helpful info. Thanks for sharing!
Perfect, because the next beer I'm brewing is 100% Red X aiming for an OG of 1.050. Czech pils yeast and Hersbrucker to about 20IBU. Should be tasty.

EDIT: I see Keith had nearly that same idea listed above. Do it, Keith!
Jesse

Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2014, 02:30:19 pm »
Finally got around to brewing this today. 12 galling batch around 1.055 og. 20lbs red x and 1 lb cara red.


Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2014, 02:35:39 pm »
That picture isn't very indicative of the color. Trying to get a better one. But amazing how easy it was to get a red color. I think you can get a very red beer very easily with this malt.

Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2014, 02:36:40 pm »

Offline yso191

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1816
  • Yakima, WA
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2014, 04:18:32 pm »
How do you find the flavor?  How does it compare to malts we're more familiar with?
Steve
BJCP #D1667

“Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.” ― G.K. Chesterton

Offline majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11334
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2014, 05:29:32 pm »
I just brewed it today but un fermented it reminds me a bit like Munich flavor.

Offline Iliff Ave

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 4508
Re: Red X malt (Best Malz)
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2014, 05:03:08 pm »
Curious about the color rating.

I see it is shown at 11-13 however my beer ended up pretty dark and basically brown (with other malts). Beersmith has it defaulted to 15L and when I replace with that figure, the color rating of the beer seems more accurate.
On Tap/Bottled: IPL, Adjunct Vienna, Golden Stout, Honey Lager
Fermenting: IPA
Up Next: mexi lager, Germerican pale ale