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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2014, 07:57:35 PM »
Or the Cherries in the Snow? I wanna try that one, for sure!
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2014, 08:51:20 PM »
I think Joy of Homebrewing is a good place for any new brewer even if it is chock full of dated info because it does such a good job of giving the impression that making good beer is within reach. I wish somebody would take his attitude and scope of information and filter it through accurate and current homebrewing knowledge.
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 10:33:48 PM »
For the first decade I read, and re-read Charlie P's books religiously...and then, as my experience mounted, I didn't use the book at all.  I eventually moved on to Daniels' Designing Great Beers, and then I think that info got a little stale (in the second decade), and desperately needs an update.  I recently got a copy of Palmer's book as a gift, and I couldn't stay focused....it isn't that it isn't good info, but still pretty basic.  I am sure there are nuggets in there, but I lose interest.  I feel like I am half way between the two in my philosophy anyway(that is what brewing is, ultimately, philosophy on a bunch of a priori and a posteriori prepositions).  There is also the battle between the art and science, the free form movement of American Homebrewing and the BJCP style guide, but it is changing so fast, a regularly published book can not keep up with all of us, though I wish it could.  The internet and this forum works wonders, however.

I still have my original copy of The New Complete Joy....I should try to read it again....but fear the worst.
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 10:53:07 PM »
+1. The RDWHAHB cliche really is really great advice for new brewers. The whole tone of the book is fun, exciting, and well.......relaxing to the nerves of somebody brewing for the first time. I'll never forget how much I enjoyed reading it cover to cover. I was like a kid at Christmas when I realized "I can do this s#$^ " !

Exactly.  What a welcoming introduction to the hobby.  I remember reading that thing voraciously, feeling like I could conquer the world!  Sipping that first homebrew (Elbro Nerkte's Brown Ale) was unforgettable.  The Sparrow Hawk Porter was wicked good too.  Did anybody ever actually brew the Goat Scrotum Ale?   :o

Never brewed it but a coworker did. Heroic effort. Definitely different. Can't remember the special ingredient,  isn't it juniper berries? Made me think of the old man in Life of Brian.

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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2014, 11:20:11 PM »
+1. The RDWHAHB cliche really is really great advice for new brewers. The whole tone of the book is fun, exciting, and well.......relaxing to the nerves of somebody brewing for the first time. I'll never forget how much I enjoyed reading it cover to cover. I was like a kid at Christmas when I realized "I can do this s#$^ " !

That's how I felt too, I couldn't put it down. Fun and most of all empowering in a way that few reads truly are.
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2014, 11:43:54 PM »
Joy of Homebrewing = good read
How to Brew = good reference

I think both are required for new brewers and I will often gift one or the other depending on experience. Thanks Amazon.

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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 09:44:13 AM »
Did anybody ever actually brew the Goat Scrotum Ale?   :o

Guilty.  That recipe gives you a long list of "extras" you can add.  I'd only brewed a few batches and had no idea what I was doing, but I recall adding spruce, molasses, and a couple other things.  I had to force down the entire 5 gallons because nobody else would drink it.
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2014, 03:40:47 PM »
Did anybody ever actually brew the Goat Scrotum Ale?   :o

Guilty.  That recipe gives you a long list of "extras" you can add.  I'd only brewed a few batches and had no idea what I was doing, but I recall adding spruce, molasses, and a couple other things.  I had to force down the entire 5 gallons because nobody else would drink it.

Which brings about a valuable lesson for the newbie: don't be afraid to dump a batch if it sucks! Just gives you another reason to brew more beer.
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2014, 07:47:47 AM »
Charlie wrote an interesting, kind of retrospective article for the latest Zymurgy about the first addition, including one of the recipes. After the recipe he says - well, it was the best advice at the time.
 
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2014, 09:00:35 AM »
Did anybody ever actually brew the Goat Scrotum Ale?   :o

Guilty.  That recipe gives you a long list of "extras" you can add.  I'd only brewed a few batches and had no idea what I was doing, but I recall adding spruce, molasses, and a couple other things.  I had to force down the entire 5 gallons because nobody else would drink it.

I'm pretty sure we brewed this one.  Isn't one of the additions a stick of licorice?  I don't recall drinking much of it, but I'm sure my brew partner at the time took most of it.

I brewed a whole lot of those recipes.  Toad Spit Stout was the first one.
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2014, 09:09:53 AM »
Did anybody ever actually brew the Goat Scrotum Ale?   :o

Guilty.  That recipe gives you a long list of "extras" you can add.  I'd only brewed a few batches and had no idea what I was doing, but I recall adding spruce, molasses, and a couple other things.  I had to force down the entire 5 gallons because nobody else would drink it.

Which brings about a valuable lesson for the newbie: don't be afraid to dump a batch if it sucks! Just gives you another reason to brew more beer.

The other valuable lesson is to think about what you're putting in your beer and if it will really be as good as you think it sounds....
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2014, 09:18:47 AM »
Haha. I've had some beers that turned out poorly IMO. It's a big lesson when you have to drink the whole thing yourself. Found myself actually developing a taste for several bad batches but was glad to see the kegs kick.

I'd say don't make 10 gallons of something that you have no idea how it will turn out. Or have unrealistic expectations. Better to make a small pilot batch first with an untried recipe and unfamiliar ingredients or grain combinations.

"Cherries in the Snow" is the beer I wanted to brew and never have. I didn't see the recipe in the latest edition. Anyone have it?
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2014, 09:43:26 AM »
I brewed a whole lot of those recipes.  Toad Spit Stout was the first one.

I've heard good things about the Toad Spit Stout.  I'll give that one a shot when I'm feeling stouty again. 

The guy who taught me to brew gave me his original copy of CJOHB, and it has cool margin notes too.  He's a big fan of the Ricky Racoon's Honey Lager. 

I especially like looking at the photos of 70's era homebrewers bottling beer in the kitchen.  Now I'm going to have to go track down my copy for old times' sake  ;D

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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2014, 09:49:28 AM »
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11836.0

Some guy named Euge appears to have asked for and received the recipe in this link...
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Re: I was surprised...
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2014, 10:19:22 AM »
I brewed a whole lot of those recipes.  Toad Spit Stout was the first one.

I've heard good things about the Toad Spit Stout.  I'll give that one a shot when I'm feeling stouty again. 

The guy who taught me to brew gave me his original copy of CJOHB, and it has cool margin notes too.  He's a big fan of the Ricky Racoon's Honey Lager. 

I especially like looking at the photos of 70's era homebrewers bottling beer in the kitchen.  Now I'm going to have to go track down my copy for old times' sake  ;D

The Toad Spit recipes calls for an ungodly amount of gypsum.  Something like 4 Tbsp., which we now know is counterproductive for a dark beer.  I once asked Charlie if he'd eliminate it if he was doing the recipe today.  He told me that he probably would, but OTOH thousands of people (including me!) have brewed that recipe the way it us and loved it, so he wasn't taking it out at this point.
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