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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2014, 07:30:11 AM »
Why not just use sugar cubes...? Uniform, consistent and easily fit down the neck of a bottle.
They still sell those?
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2014, 07:55:46 AM »
Why not just use sugar cubes...? Uniform, consistent and easily fit down the neck of a bottle.
They still sell those?
And have you used them?  I'd be curious what degree of carbonation they would give.  Dose per bottle and all that.
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2014, 08:27:39 AM »
I have not used basic sugar cubes yet but there is a box in the cupboard. They are 2.5g of sugar each so 1-3 per bottle sounds about right.
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2014, 08:37:04 AM »
I assume they are just sugar? No binders?
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2014, 08:42:45 AM »
I buy the "Imperial Sugar" brand and the FDA statement is: Ingredient: Sugar.

Not sure if this brand is available everywhere but is fairly ubiquitous here. A step up from house label sugar.
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2014, 08:44:58 AM »
sugar IS a binder right?

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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2014, 09:01:15 AM »
I like this sugar cube idea a lot. I haven't seen a sugar cube in years. Will they fit in a standard bottle opening?
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2014, 09:03:13 AM »
sugar IS a binder right?
Yeah I would think they are produced by slightly wetting granulated sugar, forming, and then drying.
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2014, 09:48:47 AM »
They do fit.
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2014, 12:17:44 PM »
sugar IS a binder right?
Yeah I would think they are produced by slightly wetting granulated sugar, forming, and then drying.

Depending on how powdery the sugar is to start with, you probably don't need much/any moisture content. While lactose is far more common, sucrose can be used as a binder/bulking agent for tabletting pharmaceuticals. The pressure/heat from the die is generally enough to form a tablet on its own. Although for a sugar cube it may just be easier to heat the mold to melt the sugar partially to get it to stick.

I've heard the sugar cube idea discussed before and have been meaning to try it out myself. I think for my next batch of single-hopped brews I might try a side-by-side with the Coopers drops and sugar cubes for some of the brews.
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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2014, 04:41:17 PM »
I like this sugar cube idea a lot. I haven't seen a sugar cube in years. Will they fit in a standard bottle opening?

They fit most bottle openings. You should be able to get sugar cubes in a simple grocery store. Domino makes them. I use them when making an old fashioned, but have never tried them for bottle carbing. Can't be more than a few bucks for a box of hundreds.

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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2014, 05:48:01 PM »
Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I didnt want to start a new one with the same title.  I used these prime dose caps in my last batch and the beer was bottled almost 2 months ago and has been sitting since.  I did not add priming sugar, because as I understood the vague directions, All I needed were these caps.  Well, so far 4 test 12oz bottles are all flatter than a carrier deck......and ideas?

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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2014, 07:27:33 PM »
Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I didnt want to start a new one with the same title.  I used these prime dose caps in my last batch and the beer was bottled almost 2 months ago and has been sitting since.  I did not add priming sugar, because as I understood the vague directions, All I needed were these caps.  Well, so far 4 test 12oz bottles are all flatter than a carrier deck......and ideas?

does it taste at all sweet? are you sure about the bottle seals? is it really really high gravity? and finally, what temp are you conditioning at?

If all else fails you can make up a known strength syrup and dose with X ml per bottle. just pop each top, add specified amount of syrup and recap. give a gentle turn to get everything mixed and put them somewhere as close to 75* f as you have available

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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2014, 07:30:28 PM »
Its not sweet and I am very sure about the seals.  Not high gravity and stored at a constant 68f.  I was thinking about removing caps, and adding a bit of priming sugar and recapping.  Heck, I already blew up a keg, whats a few bottles!

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Re: Prime Dose for bottling
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2014, 04:03:47 AM »
I tested a bottle last week and it was nicely carbed - Denny's RIPA.  Spoke with a rep at NB and he said it is sugar and CBC yeast.  It should work on all beers, so I am trying it out on a Barleywine and some more sours to see if they work in those situations.
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