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Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« on: March 09, 2014, 05:10:23 PM »
So I've been kicking around this idea in my head for about a month now, so I figured to put a rough draft down in writing and get some feedback. I'm looking for a noticeable, but not overbearing mango flavor. I also want more of the habanero flavor rather than heat in this beer. Some heats ok, but I don't want to have to give out a t-shirt every time sombody finishes one lol...

I'm thinking about an OG between 1.055 and 1.060. Maybe a grain bill of 80% two row, 15% Munich, and 5% carapils (for body). This very well could be single hopped with Citra. If not, I'll use a neutral bittering hop and finish with Citra.

For the habanero, I'll de-vein and seed probably just one habanero, bag it, and add it to the boil for the last 5 minutes. Then let it steep for a 30 minute hop stand with the 0 minute hops.

After primary fermentation, it'll get racked onto 5 lbs of fresh mangoes. Once the secondary fermentation is complete, I'll taste it for habanero flavor. If I feel there needs to be more, I'll gut a couple more, bag and drop into the secondary until I get the desired taste.

Ready, set, criticize!
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 07:09:56 PM »
My only criticism is that you probably will not bring me one.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 07:10:49 PM »
My only criticism is that you probably will not bring me one.

Washington is a long haul for me  :P
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 07:16:44 PM »
My only criticism is that you probably will not bring me one.

Washington is a long haul for me  :P
Grand Rapids?
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 07:36:09 PM »
My only criticism is that you probably will not bring me one.

Washington is a long haul for me  :P
Grand Rapids?

Nope. I really wanted to go this year, but I have way too much going on this year with lots of expenses. I'll actually be returning from a honeymoon in Vegas the day the NHC starts. I probably missed two great opportunities for me to go with it being in driving distance. Philly and Grand Rapids are about the same distance for me. One of these years I'll make it to one. I think it's be cool to meet everyone for one let alone the education.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 08:36:57 PM »
http://seanterrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mango-Habanero-IPA.pdf

I've brewed this a few times; people can't get enough of it. No need for actual mango if you're using a lot of Citra, IME. Just make sure to de-seed/vein the habs.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 08:54:44 PM »
Speaking of GR and mango habanero beers, Founders made this one that I liked, but it wasn't for everyone. It had a good mango flavor that then faded and the heat would build to a nice warming level. All gone, unless they make more.
http://foundersbrewing.com/backstage-series/mango-magnifico-con-calor-2013/
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 03:52:42 AM »
http://seanterrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mango-Habanero-IPA.pdf

I've brewed this a few times; people can't get enough of it. No need for actual mango if you're using a lot of Citra, IME. Just make sure to de-seed/vein the habs.

Very nice looking recipe. I think I want to use actual fruit in mine though. If it was just me drinking this beer, I would consider using a good amount of Citra to achieve the desired mango flavor. However, this will be on tap for a 4th of July party and would be afraid that the masses wouldn't drink it if it's too hoppy. I'm don't worry about the BMC drinkers because there's never a guarantee with that. But I do what people who drink craft beers who are not a fan of hoppy beers to drink it.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 04:58:38 AM »
http://seanterrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mango-Habanero-IPA.pdf

I've brewed this a few times; people can't get enough of it. No need for actual mango if you're using a lot of Citra, IME. Just make sure to de-seed/vein the habs.

Very nice looking recipe. I think I want to use actual fruit in mine though. If it was just me drinking this beer, I would consider using a good amount of Citra to achieve the desired mango flavor. However, this will be on tap for a 4th of July party and would be afraid that the masses wouldn't drink it if it's too hoppy. I'm don't worry about the BMC drinkers because there's never a guarantee with that. But I do what people who drink craft beers who are not a fan of hoppy beers to drink it.

So these BMC drinkers will have no problem with the habanero heat? Chili beers can be more polarizing than hoppy beers.

What ever you decide to brew, good luck. I have been mulling over doing a smoked chili beer. A small brewery about an hour from home does one that really hits the spot with me.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 05:44:47 AM »
http://seanterrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mango-Habanero-IPA.pdf

I've brewed this a few times; people can't get enough of it. No need for actual mango if you're using a lot of Citra, IME. Just make sure to de-seed/vein the habs.

Very nice looking recipe. I think I want to use actual fruit in mine though. If it was just me drinking this beer, I would consider using a good amount of Citra to achieve the desired mango flavor. However, this will be on tap for a 4th of July party and would be afraid that the masses wouldn't drink it if it's too hoppy. I'm don't worry about the BMC drinkers because there's never a guarantee with that. But I do what people who drink craft beers who are not a fan of hoppy beers to drink it.

So these BMC drinkers will have no problem with the habanero heat? Chili beers can be more polarizing than hoppy beers.

What ever you decide to brew, good luck. I have been mulling over doing a smoked chili beer. A small brewery about an hour from home does one that really hits the spot with me.

I had a typo... I'm not worrying about BMC drinkers because there's never a guarantee with them. But for people like my fiancé and aunt who like crafts but aren't fans of hops.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 05:52:44 PM »
I would up the mango to 11/2 lbs per gallon, and have extract on hand to adjust. I recently did a beer with mango (almost 2 pounds per gallon). The aroma was pretty good, but the flavor was a bit too subtle, so I added a couple drops of extract per glass.

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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 10:07:05 AM »
Ok guys... Here is the first draft of a recipe...

Batch = 5.5 gal
OG = 1.060

80% Pale Two Row – 9.75 lb
15% Munich – 2 lb
5% Carapils – 11 oz

60 minute – ½ oz Warrior
15 minute – 1 oz Citra
10 minute – Yeast nutrient and whirlfloc tab
5 minute – 1 deveined and deseeded sliced habanero (bagged and allowed to steep through hop stand)
0 minute – 2 oz Citra (30 minute hop stand)
Dry Hop – 2 oz Citra after secondary fermentation

WLP 001 Cali Ale

Rack onto 7.5 pounds of cubed mangos (bag in paint strainer bag) in secondary bucket

Taste for habanero flavor – potentially add more habaneros to taste
Add dry hops for a week or so after secondary fermentation is complete
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 11:29:04 AM »
Love it! Please keep us posted on how it turns out. I was thinking about using habs in a blonde ale with similar goals.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 11:31:56 AM »
Sounds good !  I'll be curious to see how it comes out. The Citra will complement the mango for sure.
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Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2014, 11:41:32 AM »
Have you brewed this yet? I assume it's not done but would really like to hear the outcome. Don't forget to update...
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