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Re: troubleshoot my too-bitter North German Pils
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2014, 06:43:56 AM »
redzim, I think it's your hops. Given your 5 year experience with the beer the hops appear to be the variable here. It could be a combo of both the lot and the amount you are using, not necessarily one or the other by itself. That's unfortunate, it sounds like a tasty beer and it's perhaps one reason why I've been hesitant in ordering hops by the pound the last few years. I think using gelatin in this batch can't hurt and is a good idea.

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Re: troubleshoot my too-bitter North German Pils
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2014, 07:13:14 AM »
Is the AAU on the package of the hops around the same number as what you normally buy? Some crops are higher in alpha and that could easily produce a beer with more bitterness.
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Re: troubleshoot my too-bitter North German Pils
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2014, 07:27:45 AM »
And what about BETA acids???  No one ever talks about beta, but it *can* be a significant contributor in some cases.
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Re: troubleshoot my too-bitter North German Pils
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2014, 07:29:36 AM »
I brew a kolsch with 1oz of nelson fwh as the only addition. I've been meaning to try it with only a 20 minute addition to compare. Not enough brew days.

If/when you try this, or anyone else, PLEASE, I implore you, please share your results with the internet universe.  This is an experiment I am interested in, but one I will probably never run myself.  There are SO many experiments I will never run myself.  I run plenty of others.
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Re: troubleshoot my too-bitter North German Pils
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2014, 09:02:19 AM »
I am with blatz, that FWH = 20 minute addition is a farce.  My intuition tells me so.  I don't care to experiment to prove my theory.  It just makes zero logical sense is all.

OTOH, when I had FWH beers analyzed for IBU, the analysis came within 1% of my IBU prediction based on 20 min.  That's not intuition, that's science.
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Re: troubleshoot my too-bitter North German Pils
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2014, 10:29:42 AM »
Is the AAU on the package of the hops around the same number as what you normally buy? Some crops are higher in alpha and that could easily produce a beer with more bitterness.

Yes, the AA% was 4.0% on this batch, similar to other Hallertauer Mittelfruh hops, and anyways I match up my hop amounts year to year using Tinseth IBU approximations, rather than just going by weight...