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Offline hopfenundmalz

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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #360 on: March 31, 2016, 08:43:42 pm »
Got this recently...can't figure out how my sodium is so damn high! I ensured that I bypassed my water softener and ran the water for about 5 minutes. This is city tap water filtered through a Pur filtering device.

pH- 8.9
Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) Est, ppm-503
Cations / Anions, me/L- 8.1/8.6
Sodium, Na- 179
Potassium, K- 12
Calcium, Ca Magnesium, Mg- 1
Total Hardness, CaCO3- 3
Nitrate, NO3-N- < 1
Sulfate, SO4-S- 58
Chloride, Cl- 52
Carbonate, CO3- 9.4
Bicarbonate, HCO3- 195
Total Alkalinity, CaCO3- 173
Total Phosphorus, P- .82
Total Iron, Fe- .02
Your Ca and Mg are very low, NA high. Looks like it was softened. Does the city soften? Can they give you any data on hardness?
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #361 on: May 13, 2016, 08:52:37 am »
New house, new water, not good - help?

pH - 8.3
TDS - 532 ppm
Na - 140 ppm
K - 3 ppm
Ca - 32 ppm
Mg - 13 ppm
Total Hardness (CaCO3) - 134 ppm
Nitrate (NO3-N) - <0.1
Sulfate (SO4-S) - 89 ppm
Cl - 46 ppm
CO3 - 1.2 ppm
HCO3 - 117 ppm
CaCO3 - 98 ppm
P - 0.57 ppm
Total Iron - <0.1

The sodium is quite high - can't (don't want to) brew with this stuff! Should I just buy RO and build it myself?
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #362 on: May 13, 2016, 08:55:51 am »
New house, new water, not good - help?

pH - 8.3
TDS - 532 ppm
Na - 140 ppm
K - 3 ppm
Ca - 32 ppm
Mg - 13 ppm
Total Hardness (CaCO3) - 134 ppm
Nitrate (NO3-N) - <0.1
Sulfate (SO4-S) - 89 ppm
Cl - 46 ppm
CO3 - 1.2 ppm
HCO3 - 117 ppm
CaCO3 - 98 ppm
P - 0.57 ppm
Total Iron - <0.1

The sodium is quite high - can't (don't want to) brew with this stuff! Should I just buy RO and build it myself?


Yeah, the Na is pretty high. Personally I'd go with RO.
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #363 on: May 13, 2016, 09:00:58 am »
New house, new water, not good - help?

pH - 8.3
TDS - 532 ppm
Na - 140 ppm
K - 3 ppm
Ca - 32 ppm
Mg - 13 ppm
Total Hardness (CaCO3) - 134 ppm
Nitrate (NO3-N) - <0.1
Sulfate (SO4-S) - 89 ppm
Cl - 46 ppm
CO3 - 1.2 ppm
HCO3 - 117 ppm
CaCO3 - 98 ppm
P - 0.57 ppm
Total Iron - <0.1

The sodium is quite high - can't (don't want to) brew with this stuff! Should I just buy RO and build it myself?


Yeah, the Na is pretty high. Personally I'd go with RO.
+1. Someone better at this might be able to give you a mitigation strategy, but even if you diluted that by 50% or 75% your sodium would be high enough that you'd need to avoid any treatments that add sodium. All RO opens up a lot more options, and once you're diluting beyond 50% why bother unless there's something in the source water that you DO want.

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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #364 on: May 13, 2016, 09:08:37 am »
+2;  Looks like softened water to me.  If that is tap I'd lease a decent RO system for drinking/cooking with some access for brewing.  Na appears 3x recommended limit of EPA.  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjgoousqdfMAhVHGz4KHfGcDrkQFggjMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.epa.gov%2Fsites%2Fproduction%2Ffiles%2F2014-09%2Fdocuments%2Fsupport_cc1_sodium_dwreport.pdf&usg=AFQjCNF44Ubt5bL_qUbnEJJqS-tSu5G3Xw&cad=rja

I would do some due diligence here. 
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #365 on: May 19, 2016, 12:43:11 pm »
+2;  Looks like softened water to me.  If that is tap I'd lease a decent RO system for drinking/cooking with some access for brewing.  Na appears 3x recommended limit of EPA.  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjgoousqdfMAhVHGz4KHfGcDrkQFggjMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.epa.gov%2Fsites%2Fproduction%2Ffiles%2F2014-09%2Fdocuments%2Fsupport_cc1_sodium_dwreport.pdf&usg=AFQjCNF44Ubt5bL_qUbnEJJqS-tSu5G3Xw&cad=rja

I would do some due diligence here.

That's an interesting thought - I did reach out to the water company and I have their water report coming soon - be interesting to see how it compares to my report from Ward Labs...

EDIT - Forgot to add location; Plain City, OH (Jerome Village - brand new development)
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 01:12:27 pm by philm63 »
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #366 on: May 20, 2016, 09:17:54 am »
Chesterfield, Derbyshire:

Sodium: 28.81mg Na/l

Calcium as CaCO3: 85.42mg/l

Magnesium as CaCO3:  24.38 mg/L

Iron: 21.30 ug Fe/l

Sulphate: 63.62 mg SO4/l

Chloride: 28.86mg Cl/l

Nitrate as NO3: 06.62mg NO3/l

Nitrite: 0

Fluoride: 0.43mg F/l

Alkalinity as CaCO3: 55.52 mg CaCO3/l

PH: 7.66
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #367 on: August 20, 2016, 12:11:42 pm »
All values in parts per million (ppm) except pH


Total Alkalinity 184

Residual Alkalinity 71

Total Hardness 570 

Calcium 221

Magnesium 349

Sulfate 54

Chloride 106

Sodium 109

pH 7.8

Total Chlorine .05

Free Chlorine 0

Chloramine .05

What's wrong with this report? Brunwater gives me an error

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Re: Post your water report, Medford, Wisconsin
« Reply #368 on: August 20, 2016, 12:45:32 pm »
Eight miles ENE of Medford, Wisconsin

pH 7.4
Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) Est, ppm 221
Electrical Conductivity, mmho/cm 0.37
Cations / Anions, me/L 4.0 / 4.0
ppm
Sodium,                      Na 8
Potassium,                  K < 1
Calcium,                     Ca 45
Magnesium,                Mg 17
Total Hardness,           CaCO3 183
Nitrate,                      NO3-N 2.9 (SAFE)
Sulfate,                      SO4-S 4
Chloride,                    Cl 34
Carbonate,                 CO3 < 1.0
Bicarbonate,               HCO3 156
Total Alkalinity,           CaCO3 128
Total Phosphorus,        P 0.05
Total Iron,                  Fe < 0.01
"<" - Not Detected / Below Detection Limit
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #369 on: August 20, 2016, 01:50:39 pm »
This is a Ward Labs report from a few years ago. Pretty stable Lake Michigan sourced NW Indiana water. What do you all think of it?

Ca: 35ppm
Mg: 12ppm
Na: 8ppm
Cl: 18ppm
So4: 24ppm

Alk: 106
Bicarbonate: 128
ph: ~8

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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #370 on: August 21, 2016, 06:24:35 am »
All values in parts per million (ppm) except pH


Total Alkalinity 184

Residual Alkalinity 71

Total Hardness 570

Calcium 221

Magnesium 349

Sulfate 54

Chloride 106

Sodium 109

pH 7.8

Total Chlorine .05

Free Chlorine 0

Chloramine .05

What's wrong with this report? Brunwater gives me an error

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There are a lot of cations (+ charge), and the bicarbonate anion is missing. The electrical charges should balance, but without some of the ions included it won't.

The Calcium and Magneasium values are so high I would question those and the total hardness.

Where is the report from?

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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #371 on: August 21, 2016, 06:29:04 am »
This is a Ward Labs report from a few years ago. Pretty stable Lake Michigan sourced NW Indiana water. What do you all think of it?

Ca: 35ppm
Mg: 12ppm
Na: 8ppm
Cl: 18ppm
So4: 24ppm

Alk: 106
Bicarbonate: 128
ph: ~8

It looks like water from a Great Lake - they are all look similar.

Good for Amber-ish to brownish beers. You need to cut with RO or distilled water for light colored lagers or ales.
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #372 on: August 21, 2016, 07:59:28 am »
Finally got around to picking up the Lamotte brew lab. My results.
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Ca 32 ppm
Mg 2.5 ppm
Na 19 ppm
Cl 30 ppm
So4  0 ppm

Alk 90
Bicarbonate 108
PH 7.2
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #373 on: August 21, 2016, 08:01:40 am »

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There are a lot of cations (+ charge), and the bicarbonate anion is missing. The electrical charges should balance, but without some of the ions included it won't.

The Calcium and Magneasium values are so high I would question those and the total hardness.

Where is the report from?
I got that done at my LHBS...
And I just emailed him about it to see if I can get that retested
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Re: Post your water report
« Reply #374 on: August 21, 2016, 09:19:54 am »
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