[hopfenundmalz]

Hah, while I absolutely understand where you are coming from being results driven, I do enjoy the science part of it too

Well wouldn't the maximum be defined as the current o2 concentration on the planet? You can't get more than that without using pure 02, correct?

Air is about 20% oxygen,  so 20 parts per hundred, which is way more that 12 parts per million.

What dissolves into the wort is another thing entirely, Jim.

[klickitat jim]

Right, I dont think the two are related at all. Otherwise I would be 20% oxygen

[micsager]

WE just couldn't stand it, so we tried a bit last night off one of the kegs.  Now I know why I don't brew lagers.  It is a very light, yellow beer.  No off flavors (that I could identify) and surprisingly not all that sweet.

Well, another two weeks or so, and I'll try and sell a couple kegs.  It will be interesting to see how it sells.  (If it sells)

[erockrph]

There are lots of other lager styles out there if you don't like the yellow stuff. Maerzen, bock, dopplebock, schwarzbier, etc. Try a couple before you rule them all out entirely.

[HoosierBrew]

There are lots of other lager styles out there if you don't like the yellow stuff. Maerzen, bock, dopplebock, schwarzbier, etc. Try a couple before you rule them all out entirely.

+1.  Cold fermented doesn't mean yellow.

[micsager]

I hear ya guys, and I'm actually starting to taste more and more lagers.  My best brew friend is big into lagers, and teaching me a thing or two. 

And my little road trip from Minneapolis to Grand Rapids next month will give me plenty of opportunity to try some more. 

[klickitat jim]

I'm a huge fan of Icicle Dirtyface Amber (lager). Give its go for inspiration some time