[majorvices]

I don't think that is a fair assessment. I'm not going over to Europe wearing my 'merican flag ball cap and going to eat at McDonalds and complaining when people don't speak English. I just don't know how to make an umlaut on my computer. So chill the hell out with your aspersions.

[nateo]

I don't think that is a fair assessment. I'm not going over to Europe wearing my 'merican flag ball cap and going to eat at McDonalds and complaining when people don't speak English. I just don't know how to make an umlaut on my computer. So chill the hell out with your aspersions.

Well, I don't think it's an aspersion, more an observation based upon what you actually said, which was:

I realize there is supposed to be an umlaut but I personally don't care and I think it looks stupid . . . so suck it up and deal with it. KOLSCH!

Which to me, sounds like "I realize (I spelled it wrong), but I think (the proper spelling of German words) looks stupid, so suck it up and deal with (my improper spelling.) KOLSCH!"

[majorvices]

Well, you are taking what I said out of context. I don't know how to make an umlaut on my iPhone, iPad, Mac or PC and I'm too old to give a damn about figuring out how to do it. The umlaut is implied in my "kolsch". Please pretend it is there.

Now, if you will excuse me I have better things to do this Sunday than argue with someone over the internet.

[jeffy]

Well, you are taking what I said out of context. I don't know how to make an umlaut on my iPhone, iPad, Mac or PC and I'm too old to give a damn about figuring out how to do it. The umlaut is implied in my "kolsch". Please pretend it is there.

Now, if you will excuse me I have better things to do this Sunday than argue with someone over the internet.

I've been taught that if you can't make an umlaut, the the correct spelling would be with an "e".  It's not difficult.

[hopfenundmalz]

If you can't make that letter, for instance if you have an English keyboard, the proper way to make umlauts is to put an e after the vowel that's supposed to have the umlaut.

On a Windows PC with a US-English keyboard, you can make these characters by holding down the Alt key and pressing the appropriate 4-digit code:

ä = Alt + 0228
ë = Alt + 0235
ï = Alt + 0239
ö = Alt + 0246
ü = Alt + 0252

What language uses ë or ï? Never saw those in German.

[Stevie]

On a mac press option+u, let go of option, then o.  On iOS hold the o down and options pop up.

Edit --- changed u to o.  Works with u too.

[erockrph]

If you can't make that letter, for instance if you have an English keyboard, the proper way to make umlauts is to put an e after the vowel that's supposed to have the umlaut.

On a Windows PC with a US-English keyboard, you can make these characters by holding down the Alt key and pressing the appropriate 4-digit code:

ä = Alt + 0228
ë = Alt + 0235
ï = Alt + 0239
ö = Alt + 0246
ü = Alt + 0252

What language uses ë or ï? Never saw those in German.

Someone must if they're there, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8F
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8B

[nateo]

I've been taught that if you can't make an umlaut, the the correct spelling would be with an "e".  It's not difficult.

You sir, are 100% correct. Apparently web addresses don't support umlauts, so pretty much the only time you see the vowel+e format here is for websites.

What language uses ë or ï? Never saw those in German.

ë and ï I've seen in French, and apparently it's also used in Dutch, and some eastern European/west Asian languages.

Edit: oops, Eric beat me to it.

I know it seems like a pretty nit-picky thing, but if I met a Chinese guy who said "I love drinking Cars Banquet, it's my favorite beer." I'd probably tell him "Naw dog, it's spelled 'Coors.' Also, drink better beer."

[klickitat jim]

Im still tryiing to figure out how Curl sounds without the R... I'm thinkng it would be just cl, like clam without the am.

[nateo]

Im still tryiing to figure out how Curl sounds without the R... I'm thinkng it would be just cl, like clam without the am.

Pronunciations vary a bit by region, but here are some examples:
http://www.forvo.com/word/kölsch/#de

The pronunciation from Thonatas is the closest to how it sounds in the local dialect. The lady from Switzerland has a weird accent, but Swiss German in general is a lot different from High German.

The vowel sound is the same as the e in "le" in French, which is also hard for English speakers to pronounce properly. U and ü are really difficult to differentiate as well. My German has gotten a lot better since I've been here, but there have been a lot of times I've said something and people thought I said something else. For instance, "Juni" and "Uni" are two different words, as are "Trauben" and "traben."

[majorvices]

Well, you are taking what I said out of context. I don't know how to make an umlaut on my iPhone, iPad, Mac or PC and I'm too old to give a damn about figuring out how to do it. The umlaut is implied in my "kolsch". Please pretend it is there.

Now, if you will excuse me I have better things to do this Sunday than argue with someone over the internet.

I've been taught that if you can't make an umlaut, the the correct spelling would be with an "e".  It's not difficult.

So funny... because I knew when I posted this that there would be a berating because of the spelling since I didn't use a frickin' umlaut. Guys, I just wanted to share a frickin' link to some frickin' glasses. Wish I would have never posted the damn thing. Sheesh!

[AmandaK]

Guys, I just wanted to share a frickin' link to some frickin' glasses. Wish I would have never posted the damn thing. Sheesh!

Well, I'm glad you did. Ignoring the bickering about umlauts and e's everywhere, I now know where to get the glasses when the mood strikes.

[HoosierBrew]

Guys, I just wanted to share a frickin' link to some frickin' glasses. Wish I would have never posted the damn thing. Sheesh!

Well, I'm glad you did. Ignoring the bickering about umlauts and e's everywhere, I now know where to get the glasses when the mood strikes.

+1.  Glad to have the link - ordered some already. Personally, I think it's ok to type the word as 'kolsch'. Just a beer, not world peace.   

[dkfick]

Guys, I just wanted to share a frickin' link to some frickin' glasses. Wish I would have never posted the damn thing. Sheesh!

Well, I'm glad you did. Ignoring the bickering about umlauts and e's everywhere, I now know where to get the glasses when the mood strikes.

I don't know... It's a bit like someone typing they found the perfect glass to drink stowoot out of.

With that said the link is great and I thank you for it

+1.  Glad to have the link - ordered some already. Personally, I think it's ok to type the word kolsch. Just a beer, not world peace.   

[Jimmy K]

Let us not forget that we're all perfectly OK with American spellings of other German words - including 'German' and also 'beer'.