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Kolsch grain bill
« on: May 15, 2014, 03:25:24 PM »
I am curious how far off this would be from a normal Kolsch. Most recipes I have seen are mostly just pilsner malt with a touch of wheat. Is the vienna out of place? My hops selection is far from authentic so I am not too worried. Just curious more than anything.

77.5% pilsner
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2014, 03:31:30 PM »
I use about 10 percent Munich in mine and it has won gold before so I'm sticking with it. Maybe not typical but it's working. I have almost eliminated the wheat entirely in favour for Munich but I still use 2 or 3 percent.

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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 04:37:54 PM »
mine is just pils and munich as well. don't see the point of wheat.
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 04:52:29 PM »
So I assume that if Munich is ok then Vienna is fine?
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 05:08:08 PM »
Why not?  It's your beer and from what I've read a lot of the character of Kolsch comes from the yeast so a bit of specialty malt for complexity likely wont hurt. Not sure I'd go 15 plus the wheat. Maybe 85:15 and skip the wheat altogether. I only add it because I bought a 55 lb sack for wheat beers. I wouldn't go buy it just for making Kolsch.

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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 05:09:34 PM »
Too late. Grains are crushed and ready for tomorrow.
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 06:47:26 PM »
Vienna is fine.  I use pils + Kolsch malt, generally 1/4 but up to 1/3.  Kolsch malt is more like Vienna than Munich.

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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 04:13:37 AM »
The recipe you have will make a fine kolsch (assuming you use hops, too).

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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 06:19:02 AM »
The recipe you have will make a fine kolsch (assuming you use hops, too).

It would probably make a decent Koelsch as well.  ;D
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 06:26:48 AM »

It would probably make a decent Koelsch as well.  ;D


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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 07:34:52 AM »
So I assume that if Munich is ok then Vienna is fine?

Jamil's recipe from Brewing Classic Styles is 95% pils and 5% Vienna...just an FYI.
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 08:08:23 AM »
Thanks all. Getting ready to mash in.

The beer has some late and dry hop additions of amarillo which obviously means it is not a 'Kolsch'
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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 05:36:37 PM »
Thanks all. Getting ready to mash in.

The beer has some late and dry hop additions of amarillo which obviously means it is not a 'Kolsch'

Yeah ... ya lost me there. Just brew a pale ale with *Kolsch yeast and be done with it.

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Re: Kolsch grain bill
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2014, 07:03:21 PM »
Thanks all. Getting ready to mash in.

The beer has some late and dry hop additions of amarillo which obviously means it is not a 'Kolsch'

Yeah ... ya lost me there. Just brew a pale ale with *Kolsch yeast and be done with it.

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