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Woo invades hop growers
« on: May 17, 2014, 06:22:30 PM »
I saw a tweet from @slohops that made me cringe:

https://twitter.com/Slohops/status/466856420164796417

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"Some small hop fields here in Slovenia are pest and deasease protected by homoeopathy preparations. Last year results very good.#health#hops"

Now, I know there will be some of you who believe homeopathy cures your headaches (Head-on, apply directly to the forehead) and some of you will be asking "homeo-what?"

To those who don't know what homeopathy is:
http://www.1023.org.uk/what-is-homeopathy.php

To those who know what it is and think it works:


Discuss...

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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 06:07:47 AM »
You'll never be able to convince them.

"Don't confuse me with the facts when my mind is already made up"- Joe Green

If homeopathy cures you you weren't sick in the first place. Think I'll continue to buy stock in HCA and Pfizer...
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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2014, 07:47:22 AM »
Blanket statements are never correct.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2014, 07:58:15 AM »
I made the mistake of reading a little too far into the various threads they were posting on. :(

Twitter must be a horrible, horrible place.
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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2014, 07:58:33 AM »
Blanket statements are never correct.

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2014, 08:12:41 AM »
I've stopped replying. It's just an exercise in futility.

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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2014, 09:07:13 AM »
Blanket statements are never correct.
As my dad used to say
All generalizations are false, including this one
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2014, 09:30:50 AM »
Blanket statements are never correct.
As my dad used to say
All generalizations are false, including this one
In theory, theory and practice are the same, except in practice.

I always thought my Mom was pretty smart, but she raised us all on homeopathy in spite of that.  My Dad always said, "homeopathy and a little faith will cure anything."
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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2014, 03:37:54 PM »
Blanket statements are never correct.

That's beautiful!
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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2014, 05:58:37 PM »
73% of all statistics are made up. I don't believe in homeopathy but at least the " cures" are harmless unlike our " normal" profit driven health care system which IMO is more worthy of our scorn.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2014, 06:54:36 PM »
I agree. Anyone can find statistics that prove their point to people less educated or invested in the subject. It does not mean their point is valid. Factual evidence provides proof, not statistics. (And I do realize that is essentially a blanket statement)


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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2014, 07:12:37 PM »
Just remember that there are levels to the term believe. To some people, if the things they believe to bevtrue are found to not be they shrug and immediately believe something else. Others can't go on living if that happens. I believe homeopathic medicine is great... shrug... whatever.

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2014, 07:13:47 PM »
I don't know much about homeopathy. But I know a little about living forever. It involves "Ol' Death's Whisper" ... and a duck.
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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2014, 09:53:27 PM »
73% of all statistics are made up. I don't believe in homeopathy but at least the " cures" are harmless unlike our " normal" profit driven health care system which IMO is more worthy of our scorn.

There is plenty of literature out there documenting adverse effects from the use of homeopathic preparations, sometimes severe. Even though these are dilute preparations, some toxins are active at quite low doses.

The biggest harm with homeopathy comes more from patients stopping, or overlooking, conventional treatments, which are generally quite effective, and seeking homeopathic treatment instead. This will often lead to patients getting sicker. And with communicable diseases, this can lead to unnecessary spread of infection.
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Re: Woo invades hop growers
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2014, 10:09:40 PM »

73% of all statistics are made up. I don't believe in homeopathy but at least the " cures" are harmless unlike our " normal" profit driven health care system which IMO is more worthy of our scorn.

There is plenty of literature out there documenting adverse effects from the use of homeopathic preparations, sometimes severe. Even though these are dilute preparations, some toxins are active at quite low doses.

The biggest harm with homeopathy comes more from patients stopping, or overlooking, conventional treatments, which are generally quite effective, and seeking homeopathic treatment instead. This will often lead to patients getting sicker. And with communicable diseases, this can lead to unnecessary spread of infection.

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