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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2014, 02:18:52 pm »
The term "flameout" was definitely in general use by 2007. 


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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2014, 02:25:27 pm »
Okay, who was the first amateur brewer to generalize the term "dough-in?"  Most amateur brewers today use the term without realizing that a dough-in is a specific type of mash-in.   Mash-in still appears to be the term of choice in the professional brewing and distilled spirits worlds.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2014, 02:50:23 pm »
I have to wonder about using the term knock out for a term indicating the end of a boil. To me, knock out is when you knock the plug out of the tun and start the run off. Flame out is very descriptive, although I now need to use the term 'power off'.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2014, 02:50:39 pm »
Okay, who was the first amateur brewer to generalize the term "dough-in?"  Most amateur brewers today use the term without realizing that a dough-in is a specific type of mash-in.   Mash-in still appears to be the term of choice in the professional brewing and distilled spirits worlds.

I rarely see homebrwers use dough-in. sometimes for sure. I certainly think of a very thick first step in a complicated step mash when I hear dough-in. Mash-In is the term I and most of the homebrewers I know use.
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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2014, 03:00:26 pm »
Okay, who was the first amateur brewer to generalize the term "dough-in?"  Most amateur brewers today use the term without realizing that a dough-in is a specific type of mash-in.   Mash-in still appears to be the term of choice in the professional brewing and distilled spirits worlds.

If I use any jargon here it would be mash-in. Most of the time I say "add the grains"

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2014, 03:13:34 pm »
Okay, who was the first amateur brewer to generalize the term "dough-in?"  Most amateur brewers today use the term without realizing that a dough-in is a specific type of mash-in.   Mash-in still appears to be the term of choice in the professional brewing and distilled spirits worlds.

I don't think it has been generalized.  Most homebrewers I know or hear speak say "mash in".  A few misuse the term "dough in", but "mash in" is much more common.
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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2014, 03:14:06 pm »
for what it's worth, my 3 year old says mash-in. ;D
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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2014, 03:38:20 pm »
I rarely see homebrwers use dough-in. sometimes for sure. I certainly think of a very thick first step in a complicated step mash when I hear dough-in. Mash-In is the term I and most of the homebrewers I know use.

The term is used all of the time on a large home brewing forum.   However, then again, many threads on that forum make me scratch my head.

With that said, the AHA forum is different.  It is the most civil, knowledgeable, and inclusive amateur-level brewing forum on the Internet. 

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2014, 03:40:40 pm »
for what it's worth, my 3 year old says mash-in. ;D

My kids say, "You're not brewing again?"   They do not care for the smell of mash let alone the smell of boiling hopped wort.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2014, 03:41:59 pm »
I rarely see homebrwers use dough-in. sometimes for sure. I certainly think of a very thick first step in a complicated step mash when I hear dough-in. Mash-In is the term I and most of the homebrewers I know use.

The term is used all of the time on a large home brewing forum.   However, then again, many threads on that forum make me scratch my head.

With that said, the AHA forum is different.  It is the most civil, knowledgeable, and inclusive amateur-level brewing forum on the Internet.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2014, 04:10:41 pm »
Since the time period you're talking about also parallels the time when internet access became widely available, I'm wondering if we're seeing regional terms spreading across the country rather than the birth of new lingo. We certainly have plenty of regional terms for things.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2014, 04:16:31 pm »
Since the time period you're talking about also parallels the time when internet access became widely available, I'm wondering if we're seeing regional terms spreading across the country rather than the birth of new lingo. We certainly have plenty of regional terms for things.

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Makes good sense. The emergence of the net being widely used coincides when I remember seeing the term used.
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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2014, 08:32:37 pm »
Reminds me, in about 1988 I got a promotion because I was the only one at the company who knew how to get the new PC to boot up.

So, who first ivented boot up? It doesn't even have feet much less footwear.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2014, 09:03:24 pm »
Ah man. Remember boot disks?

Wait, this isn't the tangents thread.

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Re: Who coined the term flameout?
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2014, 09:45:49 pm »
I say dough in.... :(
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