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2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« on: July 04, 2014, 07:32:30 AM »
The 2014 Guidelines are available for review on the BJCP website.

If you find any errors, corrections, etc. please comment in the appropriate BJCP Forum.
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 08:28:33 AM »
There is some reading and study in my future.
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 12:41:23 PM »
Mike, where did the Czech Pils category go?

Sorry, I am not on the BJCP Forum, so I can't post there.
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 12:51:16 PM »
Jeff I think it would be either Czech Pale Lager or Czech Premium Pale Lager
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 01:05:15 PM »
There is also a spreadsheet showing how styles moved around.

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2014%20Style%20List.xls
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 01:23:22 PM »
Initially the logo behind the text is annoying

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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2014, 01:38:53 PM »
Getting on the forum is easy, so please post comments there. There is a new version of the guidelines available without the background image. I could link it here, or you could check the forum. I'll opt for the latter. ;)
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2014, 02:10:07 PM »
Im on. Thanks.

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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2014, 02:46:34 PM »
Jeff I think it would be either Czech Pale Lager or Czech Premium Pale Lager

Yeah it is the Premium Czech Lager, I was looking for Pilsner Urquell as the top example, see it was farther down. I didn't recognize most examples first time through - and hey - I have been to the Czeck Republic and had a few beers there. Even missed Budvar on the list.
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2014, 02:51:49 PM »
But there is a German Pils category. Most gold color lagers in Czech Republic are Pilsner style beers.

Most amber style beers are blend of Pilsner and Dark.


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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2014, 10:02:04 AM »
I'm confused by the inclusion of a 3.5% table strength saison in Strong Belgian Ale category.
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2014, 12:27:34 PM »
I think Saison is in Strong Belgian because there is a strong version. For me the key is remembering that the Category is arbitrary, not defining but merely a manner of organizing. So the same problem you are seeing would occurr if they cut and pasted saison into a different category more suitible for the table strength. Then the question would be how does the super saison fit there...

What will make things interesting is in a competition. Putting a table strength saison up against a Tripel.
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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2014, 08:00:05 PM »
What will make things interesting is in a competition. Putting a table strength saison up against a Tripel.

since this information should be mandatory, I think it should be fairly easy for comp staff to split up the saisons, and make sure that table/super ones are judged with similarly sized beers.

It is a question I've got for the AHA though:  Do they foresee combining/rearranging categories for NHC next year?  Basically, if the guidelines aren't significantly changed further, would we have 40 medal categories consisting of exactly what has been released so far? 
'cause we're gonna have like 40 International Lagers entries, and 1000 American and Specialty IPAs...

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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2014, 10:01:23 PM »
What will make things interesting is in a competition. Putting a table strength saison up against a Tripel.

since this information should be mandatory, I think it should be fairly easy for comp staff to split up the saisons, and make sure that table/super ones are judged with similarly sized beers.

It is a question I've got for the AHA though:  Do they foresee combining/rearranging categories for NHC next year?  Basically, if the guidelines aren't significantly changed further, would we have 40 medal categories consisting of exactly what has been released so far? 
'cause we're gonna have like 40 International Lagers entries, and 1000 American and Specialty IPAs...
And adding another 300ish entries to the final round judging.

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Re: 2014 BJCP Style Guidelines are out for review
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2014, 04:44:59 AM »
What will make things interesting is in a competition. Putting a table strength saison up against a Tripel.

since this information should be mandatory, I think it should be fairly easy for comp staff to split up the saisons, and make sure that table/super ones are judged with similarly sized beers.

It is a question I've got for the AHA though:  Do they foresee combining/rearranging categories for NHC next year?  Basically, if the guidelines aren't significantly changed further, would we have 40 medal categories consisting of exactly what has been released so far? 
'cause we're gonna have like 40 International Lagers entries, and 1000 American and Specialty IPAs...
And adding another 300ish entries to the final round judging.

ah, crap.  I'd forgotten.

How's the Clone Janis program coming along, I wonder?