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WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« on: July 10, 2014, 07:37:57 PM »
Between WLP001 and WLP007, which will produce a drier beer?

Going with a higher gravity beer, 1.080+. Mash somewhere in the 150 ballpark for 60-90 minutes.
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 07:40:03 PM »
ITs subjective.  Mash time and temp?  Wort OG?  Grain bill?
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2014, 05:01:21 AM »
I've used them both a lot, not sure there is a difference in attenuation based on yeast alone.
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 06:50:25 AM »
They both ferment pretty dry.  If you want it to be really dry, mash at 148 F for 90 minutes, that will help.
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 08:01:58 AM »
They both ferment pretty dry.  If you want it to be really dry, mash at 148 F for 90 minutes, that will help.

yup and if you want really dry, add 10% table sugar
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 12:09:32 PM »
and if you want it really really dry, spill some on a t-shirt and toss is in the clothes dryer on high...

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+1 for mashing low and for an even dryer beer add an extremely fermentable sugar like table sugar or dextrose. I like to add mine right into the fermenter so the yeast eat all the harder to ferment malt sugars first then finish up their meal on the simple to ferment sugars.

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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 12:42:34 PM »
and if you want it really really dry, spill some on a t-shirt and toss is in the clothes dryer on high...

ba dum, ching!

no but seriously

+1 for mashing low and for an even dryer beer add an extremely fermentable sugar like table sugar or dextrose. I like to add mine right into the fermenter so the yeast eat all the harder to ferment malt sugars first then finish up their meal on the simple to ferment sugars.

I will sometimes feed in the fermenter for an extremely high gravity brew but generally speaking I put sugar in the boil. no reason not to and less chance of forgetting to do it that way. I've never seen a beer not finish because sugar was added to the boil instead of the fermenter
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 12:44:20 PM »
and if you want it really really dry, spill some on a t-shirt and toss is in the clothes dryer on high...

ba dum, ching!

no but seriously

+1 for mashing low and for an even dryer beer add an extremely fermentable sugar like table sugar or dextrose. I like to add mine right into the fermenter so the yeast eat all the harder to ferment malt sugars first then finish up their meal on the simple to ferment sugars.

I will sometimes feed in the fermenter for an extremely high gravity brew but generally speaking I put sugar in the boil. no reason not to and less chance of forgetting to do it that way. I've never seen a beer not finish because sugar was added to the boil instead of the fermenter

Co-incidentally I did almost forget to do that to my last brew using corn sugar in the recipe

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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 01:12:50 PM »
Actually, I do not want to dry it out. I have access to fresh WLP001 from a local Las Vegas brewery and would like to use it instead of buying WLP007.

This is for a Double Bastard clone with an OG of 1.104 (90% 2-row / 10% Special-B), mashed at 150F, and 5 ounces of Chinook. I plan on oaking it with a bourbon oak.

Double Bastard is certainly not dry.

I thought that WLP007 being a 'dry' yeast would dry it out further than 001.

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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 01:15:50 PM »
I believe the "dry" in the name of WLP007 is to differentiate it from WLP002.

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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 01:19:23 PM »
001 Attenuation rate is 73-80%

007 is 70-80%

Id say they are pretty similar. Also your mash temp will play a big part in how dry the beer ends up.

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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 01:30:25 PM »
In my experience, they both average about 77-78%.  That's at a mash temperature of about 150 F.  So, if you want less attenuation, just mash higher at like 153-154 F.  No problem.
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 02:10:16 PM »
WLP001 (a.k.a. Siebel Bry 96) is definitely more attenuative than WLP007 (a.k.a. Whitbread "B") given most wort compositions.  If you are looking for a less attenuative relatively clean yeast and are not opposed to using dry yeast, Lallemand Bry 97 produces a nice beer.  You just need to pitch two packets per 5 gallons if you want a start time that is measured in hours, not days.
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2014, 02:27:14 PM »
I've gotten very good attenuation with both strains, but never deliberately measured attenuation in the same grist/mash temp combo in both strains. I did use 007/1098 in a Stone AB type beer last winter and got a good bit better attenuation than intended.  I like both strains a lot.
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Re: WLP001 or WLP007 - Which Produces a Drier Beer?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 03:35:19 PM »
So given the same brewing parameters, WLP001 would dry the beer out further than 007?