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Is the NHC for rich people?
« on: April 16, 2010, 01:46:24 PM »
This isn't a dig at the NHC. I think the costs for submitting entries is fair considering how much they have to do for this thing. I just wonder if the way some people blast the competition with entries, makes for a less welcoming kind of competition. Especially when in the Midwest region this year, they reached their max. I can guarantee you there were a number of people who spent literally hundreds of dollars on entry fees to enter beers in almost every category. Meaning some people who wanted to enter, could not. Seem silly to anyone else?

I'd like to see the NHC put a cap on how many beers you can submit. The competing for the Ninkasi award just seems like it gets a little out of hand. Anyone else? This is just my 2 cents.

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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 01:58:00 PM »
I think we could all assume the midwest was going to fill up this year due to the conference being in their region.  I wouldn't be surprised if 50-60% of those are from Saint Paul's.  The NE filling up was a bit of a surprise I guess.

I'd much rather spend the hundreds of dollars on other things like food, clothes, better brewing equipment ( I think Gordon Strong said once he spend the equivalent of a one weeks paycheck one year ). 

Caps on number of entries may be in the future, but I thought you couldn't enter more than 1 in a category already ( but I may be thinking about a different comp ).

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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 03:34:00 PM »
I think we could all assume the midwest was going to fill up this year due to the conference being in their region.  I wouldn't be surprised if 50-60% of those are from Saint Paul's.  The NE filling up was a bit of a surprise I guess.

I'd much rather spend the hundreds of dollars on other things like food, clothes, better brewing equipment ( I think Gordon Strong said once he spend the equivalent of a one weeks paycheck one year ). 

Caps on number of entries may be in the future, but I thought you couldn't enter more than 1 in a category already ( but I may be thinking about a different comp ).



Wasnt a surprise if you had access to the numbers from last year
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2010, 06:39:00 AM »
Are people able to enter multiple beers per style?  If that is the case I agree with you.  If they are entering just one per category I don't think I have much of an issue with that.  And by category I mean the by the lowest level, i.e. American IPA, English IPA, etc. not IPA in general.

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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2010, 06:52:48 AM »
Are people able to enter multiple beers per style?

No, you can enter at most 80 beers, one per subcategory. (And some people do.)
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2010, 05:26:35 PM »
Are people able to enter multiple beers per style?

No, you can enter at most 80 beers, one per subcategory. (And some people do.)

Yup, one per style.
But the people who do enter dozens and dozens of beers are just ruining the experience for other people IMO, especially since they're crowding people out. I mean 80 beers at $9 per entry is $720. That's just unnecessary, and the point system right now incentivizes it. 

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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2010, 06:30:40 PM »
Wasnt a surprise if you had access to the numbers from last year
Someone should have had the foresight and adjusted accordingly.

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the Northeast went from 620 in 2009 to 750, a 20% jump

a 20% jump isn't surprising????

A Midwest jump could be expected, but a jump from 550 to 750?  And wasn't the Midwest region adjusted because of the location this year?
« Last Edit: April 17, 2010, 06:33:43 PM by marty »

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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 04:30:46 AM »
But the people who do enter dozens and dozens of beers are just ruining the experience for other people IMO, especially since they're crowding people out.

Crowding people out for what exactly? If you want to win the category, brew the best beer.

Granted if you want to win the entire shooting match (Ninkasi) you'll need excellent beers in multiple categories. Really want to be the best, win Homebrewer of the Year (BOS) and the Ninkasi. I cannot recall the last time that happened.
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2010, 08:44:34 AM »
But the people who do enter dozens and dozens of beers are just ruining the experience for other people IMO, especially since they're crowding people out.

Crowding people out for what exactly? If you want to win the category, brew the best beer.

Granted if you want to win the entire shooting match (Ninkasi) you'll need excellent beers in multiple categories. Really want to be the best, win Homebrewer of the Year (BOS) and the Ninkasi. I cannot recall the last time that happened.

Crowding people out of the 750 spots for entries in the region?  If you enter 80 beers (including the same beer in multiple style categories, as some people do), that's 10% of the entry cap.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2010, 09:22:23 AM by narvin »
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2010, 08:47:27 AM »
OK, so how many people enter 80 beers?  I'd be willing to bet not too many.
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2010, 10:00:09 AM »
Less than 10 per region  ;D
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2010, 10:16:51 AM »
OK, so how many people enter 80 beers?  I'd be willing to bet not too many.

Since Jamil has reportedly "retired"... that's one less!  ;D
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2010, 10:24:54 AM »
OK, so how many people enter 80 beers?

People with more free time than I.

For those 80 beers to be *good* you'd have to be brewing what, at least twice a week?
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2010, 10:28:05 AM »
Less than 10 per region  ;D

Astounding math skills!  :)
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Re: Is the NHC for rich people?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2010, 10:40:29 AM »
OK, so how many people enter 80 beers?  I'd be willing to bet not too many.

Since Jamil has reportedly "retired"... that's one less!  ;D

the most I've heard of is about 50 beers from Jamil and Gordon, since Jamil didn't even enter, and since Gordon is in the East region - which didn't even fill up, I'm not sure what the complaint even is