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Offline delayjoe

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Pump or new burner
« on: July 17, 2014, 03:04:25 PM »
I need to know what new piece of equipment to get. A pump? Or a upgrade my propane burner?

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 03:15:45 PM »
Which ever one helps control fermentation temperature. I know neither does, but that is where I would spend my money first.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 03:19:00 PM »
I own a March pump that I have never used, which should answer your question.

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 03:40:47 PM »
I would say it depends on your burner and what sort of upgrade you are looking at. I have a $50 square bayou classic that I love. Not fancy like a blichmann, but I get ~4 five gallon batches out of a tank and after a buddy threw a windscreen on I get way better flame control.


I am looking to get a pump after I get a mill, and maybe a fancy keg hopper thing in between.


I am also dealing with 80 degree ground water in the summer which makes chilling a long and water intensive task. A pump would for sure help here.

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 03:52:13 PM »
I have fermentation covered, I built a box that I'm using a window unit to keep temperatures controlled. I have a Bayou classic now for my burner, I'm just trying to cut my brew day time down, it seems like it takes forever to boil 6-7 gal coming from mash temps.

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 04:48:15 PM »

I don't have that issue with mine. I get my sparge water from ~80 - 180 in 20 minutes and get a boil after sparge inn less. Which model do you have? I have this SQ14 and have been happy.




If all you are trying to do is cut time, I would go with the pump.


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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 06:01:39 PM »
I didn't use a pump for the longest time, but my chilling process took quite a while with merely an immersion chiller - I started using the whirlpool immersion chiller by simply adding a little copper and some silicone high temp hoses and haven't looked back...so you might want to consider that.  But I brew 10 gallons typically, so YMMV.  If your burner seems adequate, then you may save more time in your brew day by getting a pump.  Also, the pump can be used to save your back, if lifting is an issue.

That all assumes your burner is relatively adequate, of course, because a poor burner can add a lot of time to your brew day.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 07:16:51 PM »
Only one of them produces fire.  Easy choice for me.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 07:36:11 PM »
The burner I'm using is the bottom of the line Bayou classic the one that comes with the turkey fryers, it's about eight years old

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 09:10:28 PM »
If you are getting less than 3-4 batches of beer from a propane tank and it takes forever to bring to boil I 'd say get a better, more efficient burner for sure, speeds up the day and saves money over time!
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 10:22:38 PM »
You can't brew without a good heat source. You can brew without a pump.

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 11:52:13 PM »
Pumps are great but you can live without them as long as you have gravity.  Burners are slightly more important, if you have a sucky burner i would upgrade to a higher BTU burner and save the old one for the odd double brew or any other times you may want a second burner.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2014, 01:13:51 AM »
Looks like I'm going to get a new burner. Is Blichmann worth the $50 more than the Bayou classic KAB4?

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2014, 01:26:39 AM »
If you get the kab4 on amazon it's $70 less than a blichmann burner. The blichmann burners are nice and work with near any kettle/keggle you can throw at em. The centering tabs are a smart idea.