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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2014, 07:31:02 pm »
I own a March pump that I have never used, which should answer your question.
I have two and can't live without them. To each their own.

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2014, 07:44:37 pm »
I own a March pump that I have never used, which should answer your question.
I have two and can't live without them. To each their own.

Disclaimer: one is a March and the other is a Chugger.

Agreed, i cant live without my pumps. but i have a single tier brewstand and putting a my MLT higher then my BK is impossible etc.  IF you are doing small batches and dont have the ability to rig your gear semipermanantly, a pump seems like the poorer choice of the 2 options IMHO. Id get it after the burner for sure tho;)
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2014, 07:51:32 pm »
I went to plenty of burners early on. This old guy has a single tier system and for ten gallons my pumps are back savers.

If the OP is doing 5 gallons get the best best burner you can afford. Heat is required to make beer, be it NG, LPG, electricity, steam, or fire wood.

If you go to 10 gallons the pump will recirculate when chilling, move and lift the wort, and for low gravity ales I use it to aerate by pumping full throttle into the fermenter. Pumps are a tool I find useful.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2014, 07:55:02 pm »
Pumps also recirculate wert. = ss mt which has a longer life than a Coleman and is multifunctional

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2014, 04:44:27 am »
Has anyone tried the Northern Brewer Edelmetal burner?  It looks nice....
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Pump or new burner
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2014, 05:01:08 am »
If you have a burner now, all you may need is the burner head to replace your old one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009JXYTG?pc_redir=1405521303&robot_redir=1

I've been using the same turkey fryer frame since '96. I've changed hoses, regulators and burner heads but the frame is built to last. And it's the perfect height to drain wort into the fermenter via gravity. (My table was a bit short to drain the mash/lauter tun so I built a box to set it on.)

If you go that route you might be able to afford both.



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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2014, 09:32:08 am »
If you get the kab4 on amazon it's $70 less than a blichmann burner. The blichmann burners are nice and work with near any kettle/keggle you can throw at em. The centering tabs are a smart idea.

+1, I use three Blichmann burners, and love them all.  We even use one for 37 gallon boils.  Blichmann doesn't recommend using their burners with their biggest pot.  But, I do, and it works. I get fire under the boil pot once there is about an inch of wort from the MT.  By the time my fly sparge is done, it only takes another 10 minutes or so to start the boil.   

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 10:56:46 am »
I use my pump less than I thought I would. I think it depends on your system. If you are brewing mostly 5 gal batches and don't need to get the water higher than you can safely pour it then definitely the burner.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2014, 11:24:00 am »
I use my pump less than I thought I would. I think it depends on your system. If you are brewing mostly 5 gal batches and don't need to get the water higher than you can safely pour it then definitely the burner.

I use my pump on every batch for accelerated chilling.  That was the main reason I got it.  But once I had it and it was hooked up, I found other uses for it, too.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2014, 01:57:07 pm »
I wish I needed a pump.   :-\

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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2014, 09:02:13 pm »
I use my pump less than I thought I would. I think it depends on your system. If you are brewing mostly 5 gal batches and don't need to get the water higher than you can safely pour it then definitely the burner.

I use my pump on every batch for accelerated chilling.  That was the main reason I got it.  But once I had it and it was hooked up, I found other uses for it, too.
To use a pump to accelerate chilling are you using a regular wort chiller and using the pump to move the wort around?
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2014, 08:32:23 am »
I use my pump less than I thought I would. I think it depends on your system. If you are brewing mostly 5 gal batches and don't need to get the water higher than you can safely pour it then definitely the burner.

I use my pump on every batch for accelerated chilling.  That was the main reason I got it.  But once I had it and it was hooked up, I found other uses for it, too.
To use a pump to accelerate chilling are you using a regular wort chiller and using the pump to move the wort around?

Yes, search Jamil's Whirlpool immersion chiller - as as a regular immersion chiller but with a short copper dip tube added to pump the wort around the coils.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2014, 08:51:30 am »
Get a pump & go electric
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2014, 09:54:45 am »
Yes, search Jamil's Whirlpool immersion chiller - as as a regular immersion chiller but with a short copper dip tube added to pump the wort around the coils.

I'm too lazy to build the copper return tube.  I just take the output hose from the pump and stick it back in the kettle.
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Re: Pump or new burner
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2014, 10:04:36 am »

Yes, search Jamil's Whirlpool immersion chiller - as as a regular immersion chiller but with a short copper dip tube added to pump the wort around the coils.

I'm too lazy to build the copper return tube.  I just take the output hose from the pump and stick it back in the kettle.

Exactly. I'm sure some designs are more efficient than others, but moving wort is the key.