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http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140AB2609

What does the bill provide?
  • Non-profit homebrew organizations like the AHA, the CHA, the Maltose Falcons, etc can officially hold ABC sanctioned fundraising events (2 per year) for their members.
  • The event must have an educational component
  • The homebrew that's served is considered a donation
  • Signage abounds (e.g. - "hey, this is homebrew, unregulated stuff")
  • Festivals that mix homebrew and commercial beer must have the two physically separated with barriers, monitoring and additional signage
  • No "day of" signups
  • Any fundraising event with more than 50 attendees will be required to notify the ABC 48 hours in advance with the number of attendees.

What don't we get:
  • Homebrew events (club meetings, competitions, etc) at licensed establishments (e.g. bars, breweries, brewpubs)
  • Homebrew Shop Demonstration Brews
  • Homebrew Store Samples
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2014, 08:01:58 AM »
Good on ya!  But bummer about what they won't allow.
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2014, 08:27:06 AM »
Yeah! California here I come (San Diego NHC 2015)! As if there was any doubt.
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2014, 08:33:36 AM »
Good on ya!  But bummer about what they won't allow.
There's always next year!  Congrats California!
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2014, 08:51:59 AM »
Yeah! California here I come (San Diego NHC 2015)! As if there was any doubt.

Yep, me too.  It'll be my first NHC as a "civilian".  No 5 hour meeting!
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2014, 09:21:08 AM »
baby steps, and an improvement.  Congrats!

and... "The National Homebrewers Conference...is expected to draw 4000-5000 attendees in 2015..."

dayum, that's big!

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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2014, 10:19:53 AM »
I don't understand why no LHBS demo brews. I understand not having samples, but demo brews? What about shops that offer classes?

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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2014, 10:49:18 AM »
I don't understand why no LHBS demo brews. I understand not having samples, but demo brews? What about shops that offer classes?

I was wondering the same thing. As long as you don't pitch the yeast, it's really no different than making soup...
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2014, 10:54:22 AM »
Makes no sense at all. So you can serve the real deal at a sanctioned festival, but not demonstrate making (non-alcoholic) wort.     ???
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2014, 11:28:01 AM »
In the ABC's own words:

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Q. Can “home brew” supply stores make homemade beer or wine for demonstration purposes?

A. No. The law provides that beer or wine may only be produced without a license in a “household”
for “personal or family” use. Beer or wine produced at a “home brew” supply store or any other
similar location for any purpose, including demonstration, would not comply with this provision.
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2014, 11:34:50 AM »
The people who post threads like the recent "Membership" thread (debating what value there really is in paying $$ for AHA membership) seem to overlook threads like this one that shows the REAL value in fighting for homebrew rights at the governmental level. $$ to do that has to come from somewhere.
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2014, 11:36:11 AM »
I wonder if they could brew and dump before pitching yeast. Would certainly be wasteful.

Maybe an LHBS can team up with a local brewery.

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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2014, 11:47:12 AM »
baby steps, and an improvement.  Congrats!

and... "The National Homebrewers Conference...is expected to draw 4000-5000 attendees in 2015..."

dayum, that's big!
That would be a big increase from 2011 in San Diego, but it will not surprise me if it sets a new record. Many AHA members live on the West Coast, and San Diego is a destination city for more than craft beer (That may be a surprise to some.)
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 12:31:21 PM »
I wonder if they could brew and dump before pitching yeast. Would certainly be wasteful.

Maybe an LHBS can team up with a local brewery.
Or brew and let someone take the wort home to pitch. Sort of like the wort giveaways that breweries will sometimes do for homebrewers.
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Re: CA AB-2609 Signed! - Homebrew Festivals Legal Again (on Jan 1)
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2014, 01:07:28 PM »
I wonder if they could brew and dump before pitching yeast. Would certainly be wasteful.

Maybe an LHBS can team up with a local brewery.
Or brew and let someone take the wort home to pitch. Sort of like the wort giveaways that breweries will sometimes do for homebrewers.
Like IKEA , some assembly required one home.
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